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Louvert
06-18-12, 08:53 AM
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Greetings All,

Lt. Cmdr. William Alberts and his crew returned to Pearl early this AM from five months of patrol, (Dec 9, 41 to May 14, 42). Upon returning home we were given three weeks off, and the Commander was presented the Navy Commendation Medal. Now, I need to ask, as I am new to both SH4 and the TMO/RSRDC set-up I ran this patrol in: Is a 29,700 ton total, (6 merchants and a gunboat), a respectable showing? I am manually targeting everything and running the "Realistic" setting in the campaign. However, it feels as if we were either extremely lucky or more adept at evasion than we deserve to be because half of the ships we sank were either in or very near enemy-held ports. Allow me to elaborate.

After Surabaya fell my crew and I were royally PO'd about it so we decided to try a sneak attack on anything that might be parked there. During a storm and under the cover of darkness we crept, submerged, into Surabaya from the east and found a big fat freighter moored along the nearest docks, so we slipped by, lined up our tail, and gave it both tubes and it sunk within a minute. We snuck out the back door to the west and got away as two gunboats chased around behind us trying to figure out where we'd gone.

At Singapore, we slipped in from the south and scored a freighter and a gunboat before running back out the way we'd come, to the relative safety of deeper waters.

And finally, we shot the Bungo Sudio, (or Straits if you prefer), and caught another large freighter at the mouth of Hiroshima Bay, and once more got away undetected.

I'm not saying we didn't have some serious cat-and-mouse with several enemy destroyers, but it just doesn't seem likely that we should have been able to pull all this off unscathed.

Thoughts from some of you veterans of SH4 would be much appreciated.

Cheers!

Lou

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Hylander_1314
06-18-12, 12:46 PM
I would say, count your blessings! :salute:

I don't use RSRD, but the standard TMO destroyers and escort / patrol vessels aren't so forgiving. I don't even think of messing around with harbor raids, but I have also gone into the Jap_Minefields.mis file, and increase them to a level to make harbor raids unpleasant to say the least.

The largest concentration of mines is 100 in the density setting, and depending on supermod used, the lowest is anywhere from 6 to 9 which I think is by square km. I make the lowest number in density 30 to 50 just typing them in randomly.

Last time I tried to enter the bay going to Hiroshima, I made it about 1 and a half nautical miles in, and then, BOOOOM! Down we went from a mine.

As harbor raids weren't done ala Hollywood I make them unpalatable to even attempt.

WernherVonTrapp
06-18-12, 05:24 PM
Welcome mate.
Like Hylander_1314 says, RSRDC tones down the TMO AI considerably. I highly doubt my own forays into enemy harbors would have been successful if I were running TMO alone.:salute:

doulos05
06-18-12, 06:43 PM
Catching convoys are pretty challenging. Especially if there is more than 1 escort. When that happens, escapes are more challenging because there is always someone listening. This patrol I encountered a convoy of almost 30 merchants with 5 escorts, made all the more challenging because the escorts were all subchasers and this is 1942, so my torpedoes all run deep, right under their hulls.

I had to slip through the convoy and use them to slow the escorts while they tried to navigate through their charges. It was exciting.

Hylander_1314
06-18-12, 07:13 PM
How to have fun with escorts! Get into the middle of a convoy, or taskforce, especially if the escorts get in the way of a bigger vessel, and get run over by them!

Watched a Fubuki DD get creamed by a Fuso BB! No denying the outcome of that one!

Rockin Robbins
06-18-12, 10:29 PM
TMO/RSRD, I'm pulling an assignment in the Slot (Corregidor) early in the war with. a Sargon boat. No fun, I'll tell you! I am the hunted, not the hunter. It's all 30 knot destroyers three to five against little please me. And I only. have four torpedo. tubes up front. I've sunk two and have some battlescars for my effort.

Hope we pull a cushy assign hunting fat merchies next time! This is too much like work...

doulos05
06-19-12, 06:36 AM
TMO/RSRD, I'm pulling an assignment in the Slot (Corregidor) early in the war with. a Sargon boat. No fun, I'll tell you! I am the hunted, not the hunter. It's all 30 knot destroyers three to five against little please me. And I only. have four torpedo. tubes up front. I've sunk two and have some battlescars for my effort.

Hope we pull a cushy assign hunting fat merchies next time! This is too much like work...

With Mk. 14's and that mod setup, I dont' know how you even sank 2! I've set my Mk. 14's to 5 ft deep and watched them run under tankers, let alone something as shallow drafting as a destroyer... :/\\!!

merc4ulfate
06-19-12, 05:25 PM
Odd ... I run TMO 2-5 and RSRD and I have never noticed any mines in Hiroshima Harbor. I have noticed submarine nets here and there in several places but have yet to see or been blown up by a mine.

Where is Bungo Pete anyway?? I cruised into the southern section of the Bungo and sank the Yamato. She was heavily escorted and I got away but I have never seen Pete in the southern section of the Bungo.

Hylander_1314
06-19-12, 09:52 PM
Try it without RSRD.

I mod the Jap_MineField.mis file to make sure there are enough mines to run into. You have to know how to get through them to make it. And doing it blind is a nightmare.

Rockin Robbins
06-19-12, 11:25 PM
With Mk. 14's and that mod setup, I dont' know how you even sank 2! I've set my Mk. 14's to 5 ft deep and watched them run under tankers, let alone something as shallow drafting as a destroyer... :/\\!!

When you're shooting shallow draft targets set those puppies on the surface! Even then the blasted DDs dance around like they are having a great time not having to escort anything. Jumping out of the way of a torpedo is child's play for them even if you manage to shoot from short range. And if you DO hit them there's no tonnage there!

I sure hope the admiral cuts me a break when I get in from this cruise... I could end up running his garbage scow again.:wah: