10 reasons to use Skype over TS

[ddrgn]

1) Its completely free unless you want to call land lines
2) You can keep a nice contact list with more information about your friends, etc...
3) Calls are clear as a bell
4) Group calls are easy peazy
5) Can join group calls already in progress
6) No passwords required except for your own login
7) No lame authorization process
8) Did I say completely free?
9) Super easy to use interface
10) Clean program, no bugs, spyware, weird s**t

No I don't work for Skype, IMO its a good tool to start meeting pals for multiplayer games. Feel free to add me if your looking for a game.

[HunterICX]

You ever used TS before?
clearly you havent...because none of those 10 points are correct.

HunterICX

[ddrgn]

I have for many years, when you assume you just make an ass of yourself.

[ddrgn]

1) Its completely free unless you want to call land lines
2) You can keep a nice contact list with more information about your friends, etc...
3) Calls are clear as a bell
4) Group calls are easy peazy
5) Can join group calls already in progress
6) No passwords required except for your own login
7) No lame authorization process
8) Did I say completely free?
9) Super easy to use interface
10) Clean program, no bugs, spyware, weird s**t


revised for the troll:

1) TS costs money to host
2) Contacts are not kept like in Skype, its a mess in TS
3) TS is ancient technology the Incas wouldn't even use, its quality is lame
4) Group calls in TS take fifteen clicks and 5 million authorizations
6) Login in to anything TS is a four day challenge
7) There no admin registration ****
8) TS costs money, it a monthly fee to host and someone pays for it
9) TS interface looks terrible
10) TS software is buggy, and may as well be filled with spyware


Now if you want to comment like the troll you obviously are, your post count confirms that, than atleast argue your comments properly like a man. Back it up son.

[HunterICX]

1) TS costs money to host (If you go dedicated yes since you require to pay for a server, hosting with your own computer/ private server is free of charge)
2) Contacts are not kept like in Skype, its a mess in TS (if the Admin is a lazy person then yes it can get a mess...but everything can get a mess if you don't do a bit of organizing)
3) TS is ancient technology the Incas wouldn't even use, its quality is lame (TS is programmed for Gamers need...which are pretty basic.)
4) Group calls in TS take fifteen clicks and 5 million authorizations (your making that up, TS doesn't even have Group calls...you dont even call in Ts...you join a room with your buddies and done..unless the Room is password protected to make sure nobody unwanted disturbs your party then perhaps a bit effort is required by typing in 1 password to enter the room)
7) There no admin registration **** (what?)
8) TS costs money, it a monthly fee to host and someone pays for it (see #1)
9) TS interface looks terrible (looks basic, all you need as a gamer since it wont take up any system resources)
10) TS software is buggy, and may as well be filled with spyware (back that up will you, in the years I've used TS I never came across any stability issues, spyware at my end or at others I know)

Now if you want to comment like the troll you obviously are, your post count confirms that, than atleast argue your comments properly like a man. Back it up son.

Whats does my post count tell me about my attitude? but if thats suits your opinion about me...fine.

but perhaps that first post was a bit rushed and sounded hostile to you, for that you have my apologies.

HunterICX

[ddrgn]

Your arguments are weak, too many buts and maybes.

Skype is the only way to go these days.

EDIT: In retrospect I was being rather harsh in my replies, my apologies ;]

[letterboy1]

I'm starting to like the sound of Skype. How does one set it up to have multiple channels in case you have more than one team and you want to keep communications separate with the option of joining on a common channel (room). And also have multiple channels for more than one element of the same team? All switchable with key commands? I ask this because gaming communications are often a bit more demanding than a point-to-point or conference call.

[ddrgn]

My personal opinion is Skype is an awesome one to one and group call program its quick its free, and you can skip the whole community thing, the logins, the authorizations and get a quick game going, being able to talk with whoever you like. For a more organized community based chat, with hotkeys and switching rooms etc, TS may be for you.

[Fincuan]

The OPs posts start looking more and more like a Skype advertisement than honest opinions from someone who has experience with TS. The outright lies included are another thing, but Hunter already adressed most of them.

For normal gaming use, say Subsim Clowns Arma where we have anything between two to ten guys communicating on the same or on two team channels, Skype doesn't hold a candle against TS2. It was never designed for that kind of stuff and doesn't handle it particularily well. In a wider scale we can also look at Tacticalgamer.com, where I also sometimes play Arma2. We've had up to 80 players divided up on channels and sub-channels based in the ingame command chain. At the same time there might be a hundred other players on the same server playing other games, and all this using the free version of TS2. While I don't think TS is optimal, personally I prefer Mumble, they both blow Skype clear out of the water in this kind of use. No doubt Skype is still ok when you have one or two buddies to talk to. Different VOIP programs for different uses.

[TH0R]

TS3 anyone? :D

EDIT: Jokes aside, I have been playing IL2 on-line exclusively for over 4 years, and nowhere near can Skype provide what TS2 offers. Especially when you need to accommodate over 60-70 people for the Mega Missions I used to work on and every day use by that matter.

I have been using and still use both Skype and TS2 - both are excellent but for different tasks.

[Fincuan]

I haven't used TS3 much lately, hence why I left it completely out. Thanks to the plugin out there it should be the primary choice for Arma2+ACE users though :yeah:

[ddrgn]

TS3 anyone? :D

EDIT: Jokes aside, I have been playing IL2 on-line exclusively for over 4 years, and nowhere near can Skype provide what TS2 offers. Especially when you need to accommodate over 60-70 people for the Mega Missions I used to work on and every day use by that matter.

I have been using and still use both Skype and TS2 - both are excellent but for different tasks.

Are we on a IL2 forum?

TS maybe for huge 70 people communities, for a quick pick up game which doesn't require a lot of crap to get going Skype works best.

Besides I have checked out SH TS sites and there's never more than two people talking to each other, quite lame.

[ddrgn]

The OPs posts start looking more and more like a Skype advertisement than honest opinions from someone who has experience with TS. The outright lies included are another thing, but Hunter already adressed most of them.

For normal gaming use, say Subsim Clowns Arma where we have anything between two to ten guys communicating on the same or on two team channels, Skype doesn't hold a candle against TS2. It was never designed for that kind of stuff and doesn't handle it particularily well. In a wider scale we can also look at Tacticalgamer.com, where I also sometimes play Arma2. We've had up to 80 players divided up on channels and sub-channels based in the ingame command chain. At the same time there might be a hundred other players on the same server playing other games, and all this using the free version of TS2. While I don't think TS is optimal, personally I prefer Mumble, they both blow Skype clear out of the water in this kind of use. No doubt Skype is still ok when you have one or two buddies to talk to. Different VOIP programs for different uses.

Haha, no offense but I am guessing Hunter went around PM everyone about this thread, Neal has already contacted me and now all his friends show up here. His post was a troll message nothing more. His arguments very poor. Now I apologized for being harsh already and wont do it again.

I posted this after trying to host an MP game where we couldn't talk to anyone, we tried to explain in text what these guys needed to do to host a map and to download a map and install it. IMpossible to do oiver text, we want to play and play quick, anyone who wants to play MP SH5 with me and my friends, with custom maps add me to Skype. You will not find me on TS.

This is not an add for Skype its an opinion on how to get comms going quick, smooth and free without being herded around like cattle by a TS admin.

Question for you trolls? Do you even own SH5?

[TH0R]

Question for you trolls? Do you even own SH5?

To who are you referring to as troll??

One doesn't need to be a NASA engineer to see the lack of politeness and manners in your posts. Suffice to say this alone would revert me from using Skype if I didn't know better.

I won't be posting in this thread any more.

[ddrgn]

To whom are you referring as troll??

One doesn't need to be a NASA engineer to see the lack of politeness and manners in your posts. Suffice to say this alone would revert me from using Skype if I didn't know better.

I won't be posting in this thread any more.

Oh yeah not trying to be polite and politically correct here, you wont get that from me, I think I am making that quite obvious.

MP is a tough cookie to crack, its a great experience that has got bad reviews from players that do not have the smarts to even open a port. Now I have provided useful information for players to get into games and also an alternative to the dinosaur that is TS.

Its nice being called a liar by trolls who popped up here just in the last 24 hours, who have contributed nothing, don't even own the game.

This is in regards to MP games, Skype is perfect for an 8 man wolfpack without having to join a crappy subpac community, without cost, without hassle, and all my points above are relevant.

[Fincuan]

Haha, no offense but I am guessing Hunter went around PM everyone about this thread, Neal has already contacted me and now all his friends show up here. His post was a troll message nothing more. His arguments very poor. Now I apologized for being harsh already and wont do it again.

Yeah go ahead and attack the posters while ignoring the message, you've already demonstrated you're very good at it.

Neal probably contacted you because I reported your original post as spam before anyone had replied, but I see he should have probably been a bit harsher. Anyway I should have seen this thread had run its course by post #2, so bye bye.

[ddrgn]

Yeah go ahead and attack the posters while ignoring the message, you've already demonstrated you're very good at it.

Neal probably contacted you because I reported your original post as spam before anyone had replied, but I see he should have probably been a bit harsher. Anyway I should have seen this thread had run its course by post #2, so bye bye.

Spam, lol please. I am using skype right now and playing SH5 with a few buds what are you doing?

[coasterdigi]

Ya'll need to simmer down, crack a beer, boot up your Win98 box, and discuss your differences using the clearly superior VoIP solution---Microsoft NetMeeting. :rock:

[FADM Gryphon]

Pesronally I like xfire not only can you team chat but it logs your hours of play.

[kiwi_2005]

Skype is great i was using ventrilo when i use to play WoW till someone told me I should try skype instead. Skype is a lot smoother on the system when multi playing.

[raymond6751]

Does sarcasm come with skype or SH5 ?

This thread is rare for subsim. Usually folks are a lot more polite and permit each other to state opinions and comparisons without getting personal!

It doesn't matter which MP connection service you use! We each have our faves and our gripes.

Hunter is listed as a moderator, so I'm surprised he got into it. If the thread or a post is against forum policy, you know what to do.

I personally didn't think the original post was anything but opinion and an attempt to share the experience.

Reading all this crap is enough to turn folks away from subsim.
:down:

[PaulH513]

This is in regards to MP games, Skype is perfect for an 8 man wolfpack without having to join a crappy subpac community, without cost, without hassle, and all my points above are relevant.

Would you kindly explain to us why you deem it necessary to throw mud at the MP groups by saying the community is crappy?

[ddrgn]

Would you kindly explain to us why you deem it necessary to throw mud at the MP groups by saying the community is crappy?

That will just open another can of worms, maybe in another thread...

[McBeck]

Oh yeah not trying to be polite and politically correct here, you wont get that from me, I think I am making that quite obvious.
OK, then lt me make this obviuos to you...the bases of this forum is that we communicate respectfully. I guess you can see from the other replies that you need to brush up on your communication skills.

[ddrgn]

OK, then lt me make this obviuos to you...the bases of this forum is that we communicate respectfully. I guess you can see from the other replies that you need to brush up on your communication skills.

This thread is an argument in it self, I posted it 2 weeks before anyone even replied. I was called a liar, my thread was called spam...

I think if you read this closely and set your bias aside you will see I make perfect sense while the rest of the posts try and discredit a perfectly awesome alternative to TS.

I like how a little argument like this brings out the online Jesus's.

Whats the real problem here? My manners? If so is it that fact I called some of the posts here trolling? And the posters Trolls?

What else is it? That I didn't get down on my knees and kiss a mods ass after his comments?

I'm really not even sure how I offended anyone to be honest, being called a troll is a simple referral to someone showing up out of no where to post on a random topic. This all goes back to the first reply. He is a big hitter on the board, and I ruffled his feathers a bit, so what?

I apologize for calling the mod a troll, the rest of you guys that decided to stop by and s**t down my neck, I am sorry if this is bad manners, but you are trolls and lent nothing to the original topic.

[McBeck]

This thread is an argument in it self, I posted it 2 weeks before anyone even replied. I was called a liar, my thread was called spam...

I think if you read this closely and set your bias aside you will see I make perfect sense while the rest of the posts try and discredit a perfectly awesome alternative to TS.

I like how a little argument like this brings out the online Jesus's.

Whats the real problem here? My manners? If so is it that fact I called some of the posts here trolling? And the posters Trolls?

What else is it? That I didn't get down on my knees and kiss a mods ass after his comments?

I'm really not even sure how I offended anyone to be honest, being called a troll is a simple referral to someone showing up out of no where to post on a random topic. This all goes back to the first reply. He is a big hitter on the board, and I ruffled his feathers a bit, so what?

I apologize for calling the mod a troll, the rest of you guys that decided to stop by and s**t down my neck, I am sorry if this is bad manners, but you are trolls and lent nothing to the original topic.
Your right - you did take it back and then went on to post stuff like this:
Question for you trolls? Do you even own SH5? Its nice being called a liar by trolls who popped up here just in the last 24 hours, who have contributed nothing, don't even own the game. I think if you read this closely and set your bias asideI did read the thread closely and your attitude jumped right out.
I like how a little argument like this brings out the online Jesus's.Another example
What else is it? That I didn't get down on my knees and kiss a mods ass after his comments? You dont have to kiss the mods ass - where have that been stated?
All that is asked is that you keep a civilized tone and I have tried to illustrated your examples of NOT keeping a civilized tone.

[ddrgn]

Your right - you did take it back and then went on to post stuff like this:
I did read the thread closely and your attitude jumped right out.
Another example
You dont have to kiss the mods ass - where have that been stated?
All that is asked is that you keep a civilized tone and I have tried to illustrated your examples of NOT keeping a civilized tone.

This is considered sooo sooo bad and my attitude has attracted so many people whose s**t don't stink. I seriously have to laugh at how you people spend your time. This is my thread of course I am going to argue its points. Sorry the kitchen got to hot for you guys.

I appreciate the mother to son lecture, I really do, I will dance around on eggshells just for you fine gentlemen.

Back to my initial point - use skype! lets drop down some wolfpack action!

[JohnnyRythm]

I just read this post,as i'm new to sub online gaming i got help from the guys at www.ComSubsPac.com (http://www.ComSubsPac.com) they now use tunngle as well as online,as for speaking in gaming i love Americas Army 3 too & its uses teamspeak 3,so teamspeak for me is fun n safe with the right people,by reading this post i see this person may not like multiplayer with people who have fun on teamspeak or use teamspeak r maybe not i do not know,but certainly promotes this skype,yahoo have instant calls free with instant messenger,why not try that? if you do not want to find a website for silent hunter muliplay then do not post, i see a lot of angry people by replys here?as for me teamspeak rocks n i love playing silent hunter online with it :DL

[Erdem]

Uhh clearly you haven't heard of Mumble (http://mumble.sourceforge.net/). It's an open source&lightweight VOIP program which has been very popular within gaming communities because of it's low-latency/high quality voice codecs.

Skype is not suitable for gaming at all. I'd even take TS over it.

[ddrgn]

Uhh clearly you haven't heard of Mumble (http://mumble.sourceforge.net/). It's an open source&lightweight VOIP program which has been very popular within gaming communities because of it's low-latency/high quality voice codecs.

Skype is not suitable for gaming at all. I'd even take TS over it.

For SH5MP where you hardly get anyone playing and lucky to get 4 guys in a room, Skype works just fine.... So many additional features we are using, not just for game. Its a nice tool to double for msn and a voip program.

Share files, keep contacts, make calls, show screen captures to others who can help install mods and get the game going (needed a lot when it comes to new players)....

Anyhow I would like to hear opinions from people actually playing SH5 MP and what programs they are using. All the posts except for mine come from people that haven't even played this game online. Kind of worthless posting IMO.

[Task Force]

I still perfer TS. Guess its cause im use to it.

[Depthunter]

I still perfer TS. Guess its cause im use to it.
Dunno bout ye guys,but worldwide Lan serious gamers use Teamspeak be it 2 or 3 so yes nice thread but skype is friends only,
unless you want som freak to ring your daughter online,
as it happened to my 7yr old girl on my pc through Ubisoft,
over Skype,
yes she clicked on som skype link there,
& got some pervert,
i'm a lan lover of all games,whoever you are my friend but Skype is set not for multiplay,Family,Friends Yes,Not Gamers,for now,it seems,until you will have to purchace a licence soon & soon you must pay,
like Teamspeak3 i'm told,
i'm part of a huge lan community,
i agree with task force,
Your skype will not get players to join,
Friends yes for now,
best leave it to those whose forums ive read,as a newbie here this guy has more knowledge than you on multiplay,he seems kool = grafpaper
Best to be safe onlne & be rid of free Skype,until its patrolled,Online that includes Ubisoft & other sites.

[ddrgn]

We use both, skype is a nice way to connect fast without the redtape of joining a site. We traditionally use a combination of both anyways. I am guessing we get more games going in SH5 multiplayer than any other community, so we must be doing something right.

[wingtip]

although skype may be a nice program (never used it) i dont see the need of the op to just right out bash ts from the get go... i have used ts for years and lately just started using the ts3 version... they have always served me well for previous silent hunter series... ts is/was/will be always a stable reliable platform. I like how you can have a fleet or group banner/logo in the chat window now, and yes it does multiple channels for making squads and can even do command channels so a leader can talk to just squad leaders so he doesnt have to hear dozens of people talking at once... It has lots of many other features as well that i wont go into.

to me its every bit as good of a program as a person would need and i fail to understand your bashing it so bad... Your "almighty opinionated" post really put me off and makes me not even want to try it cause you reminded me of a lame car salesman like you were selling something...

I actually came in this thread cause i hadnt used skype and wanted to see some feedback from people that have used it just to see what it was all about and you sir have made up my mind.... Thank you.


TS forever......

[ddrgn]

Got to love the heart felt comments here.....

Listen, with Skype, if someone new adds me, I sent them my SH5 contacts.

Instantly with Skype I am able to give people 20+ contacts for playing, TS3 is just a lobby room, if no one is there, no one connects.

With Skype, we connect fast, we meet up and get games going. We all meet each other, we all know each other, try doing that with your almighty TS3.

Anyhow, I am not as pig headed as most of you fellas in this thread.... We use a combination of both. But TS3 did nothing to build this group of guys, all TS3 does is help us chat together. As for community it does nothing......

[Dowly]

Right, first of all, if you go back to Hunter's post you see (well, you should see) that it was a response to your false claims about TS. You replied by calling him a troll and made again false claims about TS. Hunter corrected you, but did you take it like a man? Nope, you continued your troll statements.

Secondly, you don't have to join any sites to use TS, hell, you can host the server yourself if you want to. Also, Jimbuna has had his GWX TS server running non-stop for years and AFAIK everyone is welcome there. You can find connection info atleast from the SH3 MP, not sure if he has posted the info into the SH5 MP.

Ow and what exactly does it matter if someone has not played SH5 MP when your post was about Skype being better than TS?

PS. You don't have to be rude if people disagree with you. ;)

[ddrgn]

Right, first of all, if you go back to Hunter's post you see (well, you should see) that it was a response to your false claims about TS. You replied by calling him a troll and made again false claims about TS. Hunter corrected you, but did you take it like a man? Nope, you continued your troll statements.

Secondly, you don't have to join any sites to use TS, hell, you can host the server yourself if you want to. Also, Jimbuna has had his GWX TS server running non-stop for years and AFAIK everyone is welcome there. You can find connection info atleast from the SH3 MP, not sure if he has posted the info into the SH5 MP.

Ow and what exactly does it matter if someone has not played SH5 MP when your post was about Skype being better than TS?

PS. You don't have to be rude if people disagree with you. ;)


LOL, I am just glad this thread brought as much attention to this place as it did. You guys have no idea what your missing in MP.....

I am not going to defend my actions anymore, did that enough already above, and I could care less what you holier than thou's think about me.... I could care less on the whos who of this forum, most of you guys are just here to have your butts kissed all day...

Anyhow again if your not playing MP, your opinion do not count to me...

Now if you add me up we get chatting and get a game going and you say "hey Pete, lets chat on TS3" I will be like "sure thing, just take the latest map I made on Skype" and you will be "Great thanks"

[Dowly]

Anyhow again if your not playing MP, your opinion do not count to me...



Oh good, because I think you're bit of an a-hole. :)

[ddrgn]

Fair enough!:)

[Dowly]

Mkay. :salute:

[Justaguyinnc]

I don't use skype... but I do have a TS3 up that anyone can join with no conditions other than be civil, and there is a silent hunter channel there that anyone can use. And, i rather see us all just getting together and playing then seeing who can piss in the water the deepest. Anyone wishing to, please do.


Group Name:[NEM] Nothing Else Matters - Just Play The Game
Group URL: http://justplaythegame.us
Registration required? Yes for forums and No for TS3
Game Server: player hosted
Voice Chat Server Used: TeamSpeak 3.
Voice Chat Server I.P.: 64.154.38.226 port: 9116
Usual Game Time: when people show up and get together
Let's help everyone find a home base to play and make the SH5 fleet grow!
http://justplaythegame.us