View Full Version : 2 playable sides... is hooked gamers pulling my leg?
oscar19681
08-27-09, 07:45 PM
from the hooked gamers article i quote
Historic battles
If you were disappointed that you could only play on the Allied side in Silent Hunter 4, you will be happy to learn that this is remedied in Silent Hunter 5. Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into.
They dont give sufcient details on what exactly can be played . I wonder what they mean!
Check it out yourself. http://www.hookedgamers.com/pc/silent_hunter_5/preview/article-551.html
Task Force
08-27-09, 07:55 PM
does this mean theres multiple sides...:hmmm:
Webster
08-27-09, 08:05 PM
perhaps if its staying in the ATO then we will have a german/english side version or maybe we might get fleetboats too :woot:
GoldenRivet
08-27-09, 08:05 PM
probably a single player element where you can chose sides. :hmmm:
im just not excited about it. sorry.
U-Boats is where it should be for SH5
from the hooked gamers article i quote
Historic battles
If you were disappointed that you could only play on the Allied side in Silent Hunter 4, you will be happy to learn that this is remedied in Silent Hunter 5. Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into.
They dont give sufcient details on what exactly can be played . I wonder what they mean!
Check it out yourself. http://www.hookedgamers.com/pc/silent_hunter_5/preview/article-551.html
I think they mean this
"the game is easy to get into. Ubisoft is making the game playable for both beginners and genre veterans by implementing two different modes."
But this here made me confused too
" Regardless of the side you play for" for me it means whatever you play as allied or the axis.
I'll find out when I have purchased the game
Markus
ETR3(SS)
08-27-09, 09:10 PM
If you were disappointed that you could only play on the Allied side in Silent Hunter 4, you will be happy to learn that this is remedied in Silent Hunter 5. Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into. They only reference SH4 here, no mention of SH3. So my take on it is this. In SH4 you played the Americans, with SH5 you will be playing the Germans. To me they came across like playing the Americans was a bad thing, a problem that needed a remedy. But hey I could be wrong, maybe we'll get those Brit boats after all!
It includes axidental results.
Axidental operations are those performed by Kriegsmarine dentists. :D
FIREWALL
08-27-09, 10:33 PM
Uhhh. Why doesn't someone ask them point blank what they meant ? :hmmm:
Or is this second guessing game more fun ? :yep: :doh:
SteamWake
08-27-09, 10:40 PM
Uhhh. Why doesn't someone ask them point blank what they meant ? :hmmm:
Or is this second guessing game more fun ? :yep: :doh:
It's called a 'tease' :woot:
posted in Firewall sized font.
This is a most curious development.
Task Force
08-27-09, 10:55 PM
Is it just me or are these navy seal avatars realy multiplying...:o
FIREWALL
08-27-09, 11:04 PM
I think they change at 11,000 posts. :wah::damn::damn::damn:
that doesnt mean that you can play both sides. Its stating that since you played allied in SH4, you now play axis in SH5.
"Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into"
Intresting... I wonder :hmmm:
As i understand it one can play both sides in SH5. Looks like we get mediterrainien and Atlantic in one package, finally.
"Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into"
Intresting... I wonder :hmmm:
Maybe it only means "side" of simulation or arcade mode is easy to get into...
Even if it sounds like both allied and axis side cold be implemented but I don`t think so.
Why not?
It's already been done with U-boat missions.
Because they never mentioned about making allied side, only U-boats in atlantic. If they would, it`d be the first thing to metion in "features" don`t you think? (But still they can surprise us ofcourse)
I`m pretty sure they`ll do something in expansion pack though.
Edit: And making it this way brings them more money.
Maybe it only means "side" of simulation or arcade mode is easy to get into...
Even if it sounds like both allied and axis side cold be implemented but I don`t think so.
Maybe, though what would be involved to make Allied & Axis ATO campaign in the SHV?
IMHO it would most be Art related, e.g detailed 3d models Allied submarines.
Some US Fleetboats like the S-1 & Gato could be ported from Sh4 and it wouldnt be too hard to build a few British Subs. though im not sure about the interiors as I dont belive there are many (if any) Royal navy WW2 era SUBs in existance today, AFAIK they all got recycled into back into 'pots and pans' the 60's.
Eveything else, like NPC units and campaign file etc is already in place for the Uboat campaign..
Would just need abit more Axis traffic (around Biscay, North Sea/ Norway and of course the MED)
Wouldnt hold my breath, but it certainly not an impossible scenario :hmmm:
SteamWake
08-28-09, 08:57 AM
I think Ive figured it out.
Perhaps the author of that article had some reservations about playing as a German 'Nazi'. Hence the quip "no matter which 'side'".
Because they never mentioned about making allied side, only U-boats in atlantic. If they would, it`d be the first thing to metion in "features" don`t you think? (But still they can surprise us ofcourse)
I`m pretty sure they`ll do something in expansion pack though.
Edit: And making it this way brings them more money.
They haven't mentioned this and tons of other features we all are eager to hear about. This is how they hype a game. They won't give us everything yet. And since this was introduced with the U-boat addon they might not consider this as big news. What we think is another case.
Or that just means that there will be an MP gamestyle as in SH4, one plays the uboat, one plays allied surface ship.
difool2
08-28-09, 09:32 AM
They only reference SH4 here, no mention of SH3. So my take on it is this. In SH4 you played the Americans, with SH5 you will be playing the Germans. To me they came across like playing the Americans was a bad thing, a problem that needed a remedy. But hey I could be wrong, maybe we'll get those Brit boats after all!
They missed a big opportunity to have Japanese subs in SH IV. Wasn't some mod group working on that-haven't seen anything in the relevant mod forum about it in some time tho.
ETR3(SS)
08-28-09, 09:41 AM
Yes there is a Japanese campaign in the works I believe. Seems the SH4 forums have died out a little with the tiny bit of news of SH5 coming out.
Seems the SH4 forums have died out a little with the tiny bit of news of SH5 coming out.
Havent it always been abit on the dry side? :88)
Iron Budokan
08-28-09, 11:03 AM
In SH4 you played the Americans, with SH5 you will be playing the Germans.
Exactly. There is no evidence whatsoever that we can play the Allies in SH V. The reviewer was simply comparing SH IV to V is all.
SteamWake
08-28-09, 11:03 AM
Havent it always been abit on the dry side? :88)
Dowly / Dry :har:
Safe-Keeper
08-28-09, 11:56 AM
They only reference SH4 here, no mention of SH3. So my take on it is this. In SH4 you played the Americans, with SH5 you will be playing the Germans. To me they came across like playing the Americans was a bad thing, a problem that needed a remedy. But hey I could be wrong, maybe we'll get those Brit boats after all!This was my interpretation as well.
fireship4
08-28-09, 12:02 PM
Regardless of the side you play for, the game is easy to get into.
Why would they have said that then?
##Wow what the hell is up with my user pic?
ETR3(SS)
08-28-09, 12:08 PM
Welcome to a Wild Night in Bangkok! :har:
PL_Andrev
08-28-09, 12:09 PM
From www.ign.com: (http://www.ign.com:)
Multiplayer Functions in SH5
* Offline Versus Multiplayer (8 players)
* Offline Co-Op Multiplayer (8 players)
* Online Versus Multiplayer (4 players)
* Online Co-Op Multiplayer (4 players)
* Online Multiplayer
What does it mean "online versus multiplayer?
And what is difference beetwen three last points?
Hm...
:hmmm:
Jimbuna
08-28-09, 12:47 PM
They only reference SH4 here, no mention of SH3. So my take on it is this. In SH4 you played the Americans, with SH5 you will be playing the Germans. To me they came across like playing the Americans was a bad thing, a problem that needed a remedy. But hey I could be wrong, maybe we'll get those Brit boats after all!
You could be right on the money there :DL
Officerpuppy
08-28-09, 01:56 PM
Well, if there is MP, then surely it will be sub vs sub or sub vs destroyers. Which would make another side playable, obviously you won't have Germans vs Germans.
Of course it could only apply to MP and the SP game is Germans only. :hmmm:
Well, if there is MP, then surely it will be sub vs sub or sub vs destroyers. Which would make another side playable, obviously you won't have Germans vs Germans.
True, 2 sides could be above and below :o
Hey guys have you seen the last picture with the planes and the ships in the convoy. Look at the pictures update thread
Those are japanese planes!!!! You know what these means!
ETR3(SS)
08-28-09, 06:33 PM
Looks like a shot straight outta SH4. :hmmm:
Hey guys have you seen the last picture with the planes and the ships in the convoy. Look at the pictures update thread
Those are japanese planes!!!! You know what these means!
He is quite right. - though that cold be and SH4 shot (an accident?)
Task Force
08-28-09, 07:02 PM
http://www.hookedgamers.com/images/988/silent_hunter_5/previews/header_551_silent_hunter_5.jpg
youall talkin about this one... it was one of the shots from the sh4 Uboat missions addon...:yep:
thruster
08-28-09, 07:04 PM
i think it simply means its reverting back to the U-boat game in the ATO, like SH3 was before SH4.
all i can say is thank god for that! the japs were hopeless in ASW.
im betting that SH4 was nowhere near as popular as SH3 was.
Yet more vague descriptions. Montreal?:hmmm:
Tuesday, August 18, 2009
" Silent Hunter 5 has been revealed by Ubisoft. In development by Ubisoft Montreal, it is the fifth installment in the Silent Hunter series produced by Ubisoft. The company has announced the Silent Hunter 5 for PC only. This means it is going to be PC exclusive title. Ubisoft didn't say anything regarding the release date of the game. Silent Hunter 5 will present the players with some famous battles that were fought in Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean when German forces took over the Allied forces.
The game has so much to play in its portfolio. You can play Silent Hunter 5 from the first person view and can access every part of U boat. Well the game doesn't limits you to U boat only as it has included the battles fought in the Atlantic and Mediterranean sea now. The U boats in Silent Hunter 5 are highly detailed as are the submarines. The game gives you excellent graphical options thus presenting you with the perfect cinematic view which infact is the most advanced in any of the games Silent Hunter series. In Silent Hunter 5 for PC, players can interact with their crew members as well as can keep track of their activities. The game gives quality war strategies to the player. The game is far better in intelligence over the previous games. Enemies can upgrade themselves, can relocate if needed, and resupply the items. Artificial intelligence of Silent Hunter 5 is something that will put you in love with this game. Then the game includes new user interface for easy ship commanding and host of new features have been added to the Silent Hunter 5.
Expect the Silent Hunter 5 to come by the the end of 2009 or in the beginning of 2010."
posted here http://softwarengameslinkshere.blogspot.com/2009/08/silent-hunter-5-revealed.html
Payoff
Yet more vague descriptions. Montreal?:hmmm:
Tuesday, August 18, 2009
" Silent Hunter 5 has been revealed by Ubisoft. In development by Ubisoft Montreal, it is the fifth installment in the Silent Hunter series produced by Ubisoft. The company has announced the Silent Hunter 5 for PC only. This means it is going to be PC exclusive title. Ubisoft didn't say anything regarding the release date of the game. Silent Hunter 5 will present the players with some famous battles that were fought in Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean when German forces took over the Allied forces.
The game has so much to play in its portfolio. You can play Silent Hunter 5 from the first person view and can access every part of U boat. Well the game doesn't limits you to U boat only as it has included the battles fought in the Atlantic and Mediterranean sea now. The U boats in Silent Hunter 5 are highly detailed as are the submarines. The game gives you excellent graphical options thus presenting you with the perfect cinematic view which infact is the most advanced in any of the games Silent Hunter series. In Silent Hunter 5 for PC, players can interact with their crew members as well as can keep track of their activities. The game gives quality war strategies to the player. The game is far better in intelligence over the previous games. Enemies can upgrade themselves, can relocate if needed, and resupply the items. Artificial intelligence of Silent Hunter 5 is something that will put you in love with this game. Then the game includes new user interface for easy ship commanding and host of new features have been added to the Silent Hunter 5.
Expect the Silent Hunter 5 to come by the the end of 2009 or in the beginning of 2010."
posted here http://softwarengameslinkshere.blogspot.com/2009/08/silent-hunter-5-revealed.html
Payoff
Well, lets assume its Uboats only, that way if it isnt - then its a nice suprise! (but no one will be dissapointed if its Uboats only)
:DL
Platapus
08-29-09, 04:30 PM
It would be swell if there was an anti-sub aspect of SH5.
I guess it would be too much to hope for an updated SH5 destroyer command?
I would really like a good anti-sub WWII game.
It would be swell if there was an anti-sub aspect of SH5.
I guess it would be too much to hope for an updated SH5 destroyer command?
I would really like a good anti-sub WWII game.
Hang about! If im not mistaken you just posted in the wolf pack thread- saying that theres no need for AI submarines (in case they steal your kills.)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1161602&postcount=82
And yet now you want to play as Destroyers? Guess what? you gonna need AI controlled Uboats for that.
I will be a very dull Anti sub campaign if we are hunting Uboats with out any Artifical intelligence ... in fact it should be like shooting fish a barrel. :rotfl:
You gotta be more careful of what you wish for mate :DL
Platapus
08-29-09, 06:33 PM
You are not understanding the difference between the two posts, I am afraid.
You are not understanding the difference between the two posts, I am afraid.
I understand perfectly, Im just teasing more or less. (Sorry)
I just hope that you can understand full implications of Submarine AI not being included/coded - its not just about wolfpacks, having this feature opens up a ton of other possiblilies (like Destroyer command II)
Though wolf packs are the main reason for the Devs to take the time to do it, But by saying 'no' to wolf packs we are essentially also saying no to enemy submarines too - two birds one stone.
That is the point I have been trying hammer though to people. ;)
Why would they have said that then?
As noted in this post http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpos ... tcount=449 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1155485&postcount=449) , at least one report on the SH 5 announcement stated there would be playable allied boats. see:
http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/18/silent- ... -of-a-sub/ (http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/18/silent-hunter-5-revealed-trailer-shows-the-inside-of-a-sub/)
Mikhayl
08-30-09, 01:30 PM
Combined with previews that insist that the action will be in the Atlantic and Mediterranean (no Pacific mentionned), maybe we'll actually be getting some British subs? :ping:
Webster
08-30-09, 08:55 PM
or maybe we'll get escort duty in a tin can, being the DD vs the sub?
Highbury
08-30-09, 09:12 PM
Do any of you honestly think that if it was a 2 theater game that would NOT be listed in the features? Do you honestly think that if we were able to command a DD at any point it would NOT be listed in the features?
There is always alot of speculation after a SH game announcement, but the imagination going into some of these for SH5 is just incredible... I just read one by someone that wants to have to swim away from sharks after abandoning ship.... :damn::doh:
Jimbuna
08-31-09, 04:20 PM
Combined with previews that insist that the action will be in the Atlantic and Mediterranean (no Pacific mentionned), maybe we'll actually be getting some British subs? :ping:
Permit me to join you in that hope/wish :DL
andycaccia
09-19-09, 08:15 AM
I am a bit worried about this..
First: I like u boats and I want u boats, nothing else...but I realize that some people may disagree..
Second: detailed representation of german u boats needs a lot of hard work...adding an equally modeled british sub (or american/soviet whatever) will double the workload for devs...which often results in a poor result.
I prefer excellent U boats and only U boats than good U boats and poorly made allied subs...
Webster
09-19-09, 01:06 PM
the imagination going into some of these for SH5 is just incredible... I just read one by someone that wants to have to swim away from sharks after abandoning ship.... :damn::doh:
:o omg
do they want to smell the soup cooking too? and have the monitor squirt water on you in rough weather maybe?
Jimbuna
09-20-09, 07:04 AM
I prefer excellent U boats and only U boats than good U boats and poorly made allied subs...
You may be in for a suprise then.....consider the possibility of both German and Allied units fitting into the 'excellent' category. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
andycaccia
10-02-09, 04:38 PM
You may be in for a suprise then.....consider the possibility of both German and Allied units fitting into the 'excellent' category. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/smilies/wolfsmilies/pirate.gif
Yes, I really hope so...but the fact is that given x amont of time and x amount of money, the less you have to do the better it will be done. It's not a rule, of course, but I know that if you put more and more work into a project it is unlikely that everything will result "excellent"..they have to deal with funds/time at their disposal.
I only hope you are correct.:)
Freiwillige
10-03-09, 06:02 AM
Or what if....You could play German surface units! Convoy hunting would have a whole new meaning in Der Scharnhorst up by Norway.
Wishfull thinking I know But I have never understood why this excellent Game engine was not produced into a full blown naval simulator of WWII.
Jimbuna
10-03-09, 03:33 PM
Or what if....You could play German surface units! Convoy hunting would have a whole new meaning in Der Scharnhorst up by Norway.
Wishfull thinking I know But I have never understood why this excellent Game engine was not produced into a full blown naval simulator of WWII.
Probably because the Royal Navy would bring the game to a swift conclusion :smug:
Snestorm
10-03-09, 07:41 PM
It would seem that getting the uboats right is enough of a challenge.
If that happens, I'll be more than content.
Malakie
10-04-09, 09:33 AM
Well the only way I will buy it is if I can play the allied side.. I am one of those that will not play the 'other side'. Call it what ever you will but I never play the side of evil or those against the 'good side'.. whether it be RPG, war sims or elsewise. If it is only playable as the axis against the allies then I will pass.
Malakie
Ilpalazzo
10-04-09, 12:49 PM
Well the only way I will buy it is if I can play the allied side.. I am one of those that will not play the 'other side'. Call it what ever you will but I never play the side of evil or those against the 'good side'.. whether it be RPG, war sims or elsewise. If it is only playable as the axis against the allies then I will pass.And here I am wishing more games would let me play as the bad guys... That includes ww2 games. I'm not a nazi or anything, but after so many games behind me, it's just dull to play as the good guys all the time. also, I like the german (and russian) weapons more(guns, tanks, planes, subs, etc.).
Anyway, sinking a merchant, or any other ship for that matter, is the same no matter which side you're on. It's not like you have to hail hitler to your monitor or anything.
This game is pretty straight forward. And it feels like there's never any progress and that your actions mean nothing. Besides, you still lose the war.:yeah:
If anybody is interested in this sparse genre, they shouldn't let some abstract notions get in the way of having some fun.
ps. If they ever let us play a different side again, I hope it's not in the Pacific. I think the Pacific is boring as hell.
I like playing subs in my bath tub. I sunk 3 rubber duckys last night.
More fun to be had in German subs, I always loved running through the English Channel in SH3.
Allied surface ship campaign would be great, plus it would work for multiplayer.
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