Another link...

[Hitman]

...this time to how ships were painted in WW1:

http://thomo.coldie.net/wargaming/colour-schemes-of-ww1-warships

[Deamon]

Thank you. Hitman. That is a new one :up:

[Seeadler]

This has been repeatedly discussed in forums and there is no reliable evidence based on historical sources about the coloring because documents of the color from the Imperial shipyards no longer exist.

I visited last weekend the International Naval Museum here in Hamburg and even there the reference that the colors used for the WWI ship models there, do not correspond to the actual use.

[Deamon]

Shouldn't it be possible to approximate the colors from paintings of that time and perhaps colored post cards ?

[Seeadler]

Shouldn't it be possible to approximate the colors from paintings of that time and perhaps colored post cards ? hardly, here is an example of a painting and a postcard

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6136643239653264.jpghttp://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_3033663734373035.jpg
one can only say here it is lightgrey and there darkgrey, but what real color of light- and darkgrey has been used is not known. There are assumptions that the Imperial High Seas Fleet during WW1 and the Kriegsmarine during WW2, were using the same colour schemes based on order of Apr.15.1896. Therefore, one could use the RAL color numbers from 1927 and the paint schemes of the Kriegsmarine.

[Deamon]

hardly, here is an example of a painting and a postcard


http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6136643239653264.jpg I think there are better paintings than this. Also perhaps coloring of the gray scale pictures might help in the process too ?

I was also wondering whether it could be of use to paint ships in many slighly different gray tones and turn them back to a gray scale image and see if some of them corelates with the photos of that time.

At least this is better than blind guesses. Also where did the documents of the yards gone ?

one can only say here it is lightgrey and there darkgrey, but what real color of light- and darkgrey has been used is not known. Didn't the tones also differ from yard to yard and maybe from time to time ?

There are assumptions that the Imperial High Seas Fleet during WW1 and the Kriegsmarine during WW2, were using the same colour schemes based on order of Apr.15.1896. Therefore, one could use the RAL color numbers from 1927 and the paint schemes of the Kriegsmarine.[/quote] Thanks for the hint. I haven't really dealt yet with this subject, I must admit. Exact colors would be great of course but I will experiment in the game to see what works best with the color of the environment. I guess that back at that time they just didn' painted the ships somehow but tried to give it a tone that gives best possible camouflage to it ?

I know a light gray was used for u-boats in the north and east sea and a light gray blue in the med. Also for some time some of the u-boats were painted black like the torpedoboats. I have an image where it seems that SMU 1-4 were black for some time. But I guess that was a rather short experimental phase.

[Seeadler]

Didn't the tones also differ from yard to yard and maybe from time to time ? Yes and also during the long patrols over the oceans, the SMS Dresden for example was repainted in Chile after the Falkland battle. And before and after Jutland there where different paint schemes. The German East Asia Squadron has also different paint shemes as the High Sea Fleet.

Exact colors would be great of course but I will experiment in the game to see what works best with the color of the environment. I did the same with my König model in the Delta3D environment;)

[Deamon]

Yup that is the way to go. You still working on something, Seeadler ?

[Catfish]

Hello,
i stumbled upon this on a WWI flight sim forum, anyone saw this before ?

http://toshism.com/main/2007/11/14/modernist-art-in-camouflage/

And Merry CHrsitmas and a Happy New Year to all !!

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

[Deamon]

Catfish,

thanks. Didn't knew the link.