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Rockin Robbins
05-05-08, 05:59 PM
Ducimus, more support for your version of reality from the fifth war patrol of Tang (O'Kane):
18 - 19 October 1944:

Patrolled in Formosa Strait, encountering nothing but
patrol craft. We were greeted on surfacing by radar-
equipped planes who seemed to be assisted in their
search by the patrol which also possessed radar. As it
appeared to be more of a case of being hunted than
hunting, we moved northeast to our original lucky spot
off Pakusa Point, then on around the northern tip of
the island to patrol off the port of Kirun.
O'Kane, so dogged by evil aircraft that he had to leave the area! Evil aircraft with radar. Assisted by escorts with radar. In 1944. TMO proved right again!!!:rock:

And people around here complain about "too many aircraft." I don't think we have it half hard enough.

Ducimus
05-05-08, 09:27 PM
If it makes you feel any better, im changing their bomb loadouts.

They currently carry two types of ordinance. A bomb that detonates on contact, or at around 60 feet or so, and a air drop depth charge that detonates around 145 feet or so. They currently come with one, or the other.

Im changing it so they always have both (historically correct according to Tater). I meant to do this earlier, but decided to focus on other things instead.

I'll take some screenshots later when i have time. Heck, i even changed the airdrop depth charge model from looking like a bomb, to acutally looking like a depth charge.

Ducimus
05-06-08, 02:02 AM
So how evil is evil?



http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_01.jpg

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_02.jpg

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_03.jpg

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_04.jpg

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_05.jpg

http://www.ducimus.net/sh4/preview/airbomb_06.jpg

Any closer, and i might have actually took some damage. :88) They usually don't get that close, but, it happends. :rotfl:

DavyJonesFootlocker
05-06-08, 08:02 AM
Lord Vader, erm, I mean Ducimus evil planes are not good. Evil is evil, good is good, Stop confusing us!:yep::lol:

Wilcke
05-06-08, 09:27 AM
That is really evil...:up: Well done!

CDR Resser
05-06-08, 01:28 PM
Look forward (maybe thats the wrong way to put that) to the modified "evil" planes.

Respectfully Submitted;
CDR Resser

This was my "Wild Night in Bangkok" post, that makup is really gaudy. Who wears green eyeshadow anyway.

kylesplanet
05-06-08, 10:06 PM
Ducimus just giggles like a school girl when we get online and tell about our demise at the hands of his evil air force.:rotfl:

All joking aside they make the game so much more interesting. :yep:

Ducimus
05-06-08, 10:20 PM
Ducimus just giggles like a school girl when we get online and tell about our demise at the hands of his evil air force.:rotfl:


With a BIG s**t eating grin i might add! :rotfl:


The thing is, they dont just bomb you, in essence, they basicaly "radio" your position. Any nearby ASW units or patrols will come to join the "party" if they're in range to do so.

Rockin Robbins
05-07-08, 04:17 AM
Moral of story, children friends: use Admiral Fluckey's yo-yo strategy. Radar is your friend. Stay on the surface every second you can. Detect evil airplanes on radar. Be at 100' when they cross the 5 mile radius like from you. Stay there for five minutes. Come to radar depth. You'll see the evil airplane exiting, stage right or left. Surface and continue as before.

He never saw you. You are not on the menu. The party has been canceled.

DavyJonesFootlocker
05-07-08, 07:48 AM
I ain't scared of any of Lord Vader's, erm Ducimus, evil winged contraptions. Whaddya think they invented bug spray for? I'm still stuck on version 1.4 and TMO and sailing out of Dutch Harbour- no sign of planes and I don't remember the Japanese had any airfield on Kiska, so here I thumb my nose at Ducimus, Nah, nah, na-na-nah!:D

Sailor Steve
05-07-08, 08:18 AM
O'Kane, so dogged by evil aircraft that he had to leave the area! Evil aircraft with radar. Assisted by escorts with radar. In 1944. TMO proved right again!!!:rock:

And people around here complain about "too many aircraft." I don't think we have it half hard enough.
I wish I had that quote back when some folks were arguing that American fleet boats had it easy. "As the war went on it got easier for them. That's boring!":rotfl:

Captain Vlad
05-07-08, 08:23 AM
Moral of story, children friends: use Admiral Fluckey's yo-yo strategy. Radar is your friend. Stay on the surface every second you can. Detect evil airplanes on radar. Be at 100' when they cross the 5 mile radius like from you. Stay there for five minutes. Come to radar depth. You'll see the evil airplane exiting, stage right or left. Surface and continue as before.
I personally don't use this strategy. It doesn't work for me. However, if it works for you RR...shut up about it! The last thing we need is Duci putting radar warning recievers on his aircraft. Then your next quote...

He never saw you. You are not on the menu. The party has been canceled.
...will no longer apply!:D

Rockin Robbins
05-07-08, 11:12 AM
Moral of story, children friends: use Admiral Fluckey's yo-yo strategy. Radar is your friend. Stay on the surface every second you can. Detect evil airplanes on radar. Be at 100' when they cross the 5 mile radius like from you. Stay there for five minutes. Come to radar depth. You'll see the evil airplane exiting, stage right or left. Surface and continue as before.
I personally don't use this strategy. It doesn't work for me. However, if it works for you RR...shut up about it! The last thing we need is Duci putting radar warning recievers on his aircraft. Then your next quote...

He never saw you. You are not on the menu. The party has been canceled.
...will no longer apply!:D
Perhaps in real life it did not apply. Reading Fluckey's patrol reports shows that he was much more judicious than I am in using his radar. The majority of planes were detected visually, implying that he recognized the potential hazards of radar overuse.

Duci would only put radar detectors on aircraft if they really had them. Just wait until they have radar! The quote above justifies it. Patch 1.5 makes it possible. Play the scary music!:doh:

DavyJonesFootlocker
05-07-08, 11:50 AM
Well, for one thing radar on aircraft didn't work as efficiently as we would like to think back in the '40s. It was a touch and go technology back then.

Rockin Robbins
05-07-08, 02:11 PM
That's what keeps it exciting!:arrgh!:

In Operation Monsoon U-Boat mission you are out on the Bay of Biscay with no radar of your own against Allied aircraft that have radar AND bomb you at or below periscope depth. Subs ain't for sissies (Penelope isn't a sissy). I'm attempting to slink back to Lorient with my tail between my legs right now. How can you get out so fast and it takes forever to get back?

And every allied aircraft in range has been called to the "crippled U-Boat limping back to Lorient" party. Casual dress. Bring your own depth charges...:damn:

Captain Vlad
05-07-08, 02:31 PM
Duci would only put radar detectors on aircraft if they really had them.

The problem is he seems to be very good at digging up sixty year old technical data to support his sadism.:D

DavyJonesFootlocker
05-07-08, 02:39 PM
As the Germans would say- Der Sicko!:rotfl:

Ducimus
05-07-08, 03:30 PM
Oh beleive me, ive thought of RWR in general.

A radar operator could detect when other radar was around by interference he would get. (ive read this in several accounts). When approaching a target with radar, the subs radar would typically be switched off, and only switched on in very short, deliberate checks for bearing and range, and then shut off again.

A short ranged RWR would fill in NICELY for that. However, im not sure about this sensor in general and if it even works in SH4, or even if the RWR sensors exist. Ive glossed over it breifly, but not throughly. Truthfully, i dont recall RWR working for the AI in Sh3, did it? Anyway, the idea has been something on the back burner.

Captain Vlad
05-07-08, 07:07 PM
A short ranged RWR would fill in NICELY for that. However, im not sure about this sensor in general and if it even works in SH4, or even if the RWR sensors exist. Ive glossed over it breifly, but not throughly. Truthfully, i dont recall RWR working for the AI in Sh3, did it? Anyway, the idea has been something on the back burner.

I dunno. In my paranoid way, I've noticed that if I cruise with radar on a lot on IV, I attract more planes...but it might be perception rather than actuality.