Wtf!!!!..........

[ReallyDedPoet]

Is all the fuss about. I have played this game in the various modes, still playing 1.0 ( installing the patch tonight ) and it rocks:up::up:. I have not even installed any mods yet, so it will only get better:yep:

Plus with the new patch on the horizon :hmm:

I am have GWX:up: installed as well, so right now is the best of both worlds for
sub-simmers:lol:

RDP

[AVGWarhawk]

Did you just get your game?

I'm wondering what the fuss is about myself. I love it.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I have had it for about a week and half, just built a new computer, so this and SH3 GWX run very smooth.

As mentioned I have tried the various modes and am very impressed, even with the bugs. With the way the mods are coming and the next patch on the horizon, the future looks bright:rock::rock:

[Audie]

I too am really digging this game.

Once I was able to recover from the dreaded "Monolith of Doom" and the nefarious "A Key" glitch, I was fully immersed in the game, and loving it.

More patches, as well as touch-ups from our beloved Modder's Community, will only make this sim better.

Farewell and Following Seas!

[AVGWarhawk]

I'll drink to that men!!! Who is buying????;)

[simsurfer]

I know it is difficult to answer, but how many patches is UBI going to release for this game? For SHIII it was three then all was quiet. Does everyone here think two more patches for this game as well?

In about 11 hours from now I hope to be in front of my pc installing it!?!?!?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Good question on the patches:yep: Have fun with the game.

[Sgian Dubh]

I am glad to see this thread.

I tried a few times to post something similar - but it didn't take off.

I have been playing and not having the majority of the problems reported by many. When I have seen unusual behaviour, I have been able to dope out at least a tentative explanation for some of the problems (e.g. RADAR turns off by itself! - caused by heavey seas states and completely reasonable, to me)

Yes, there are some oddities - but I am having a blast.

I am running the "Flavor mod" by Ducimus, and I am keeping an eye on the mod overseen by beery. A merging of these two (if it happens) will see me change to that.

Been hunting in my current campaign in the Celebs Sea and so far 6 merchants have fallen to my deck gun and 1 torpedo expended. 35k Tons so far. Weather has been lousy though. All of my intercepts have been via RADAR at night. Last one was two large merchants together.

A great game that will become awesome (and is well on its way).

[FoddaUK]

It's certainly not unplayabe, and is still great fun and gorgeous to look at. But the torpedo speed bug is killing me, and now the possible tube opening problem makes it a little worse. Still have to go back and ooh and ahh over it all, and the svs are working at patches so not the end of the world.

One other thing that's throwing me is the torpedo depth setting. Is it the torps sinking slightly? Or is the in-game recognition manual a bit out for some ships? (I have the printed recog manual but that shows draught in metres, which doesn't go with my Imperial settings.

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=470539&postcount=1

This post talks about the sub physics in the game which has great potential, I am wondering if new stuff was done to the torps as well:hmm:

[Sea Demon]

I have to be honest here. When I got this game, I was wondering what all the complaints were about here. This is one of the most amazing submarine simulations I've played. And it's darn beautiful on my monitor. I'm having no trouble running it, and I'm having fun simulating life as a WW2 US Navy sub skipper. I'm still on my first patrol with 12,000 tons sunk. And still hunting near Honshu. Anything added to make this game better will just be more icing on the cake. :up:

[Safe-Keeper]

Thank you for a change from the multiple 'I hate SH4 and Ubisoft sucks' threads:up:.

I know the feeling of loving a game 'everyone' hates, and the feeling of hating a game 'everyone' else loves. I still can't for the life of me understand how people could like The Sims. On the other hand, I love several disliked games that many just don't... get.

PS: GWX is awesome.

[ReallyDedPoet]

PS: GWX is awesome.

Thanks Safe-Keeper, yeah I have GWX still locked and loaded on the computer, the bar was set high:roll:with that mod:up:

[TDK1044]

Yes, the dark side of the Forum have yet to discover this positive thread. Probably won't be too long before the negative ranting starts though. :D

[ReallyDedPoet]

Can we somehow vaporize them when they start to show:lol:

[FoddaUK]

Target in sight! Firing tube 1 captain...

Torpedo missed.



DOH!!!

[Werewolf13]

I'm wondering what the fuss is about myself. I love it. :hmm:

Are the skies in y'all's world pink? Are the bunny rabbits blue with yellow polka-dots?

Y'all need to check and make sure you're doin the right dose of anti-depressant to be sure you're you haven't tripled up or something. :doh:

[Ducimus]

Well, im a fleetboat fanboy so my opinion doesnt count, but ... i love this game. This is my hobby for the next couple of years. :D





I am running the "Flavor mod" by Ducimus, and I am keeping an eye on the mod overseen by beery. A merging of these two (if it happens) will see me change to that.

Well, im pleased as punch someone likes my mod. Do check the first post on its thread every couple days or so, as im continually refining it based on what ive experienced in game. (ive yet to get very far in a career before i say, decide i need to make another adjustment, and scrap the current game to do it). Im up to version 1H, and 1i is about a day or two a way. Ill be up to version 2.something in no time. :roll:

As for merging mods, *shrug* i dunno. I just do my own thing and don't worry about what others are doing with Sh4. After the experience i had in the mod community in SH3, i decided that im not taking sides in any major supermod team, as their will invariably be some conflict somewhere. IF SH3 modding was any indicator, someone, somewhere, at some time, will start a supermod thats basically as a rebuttle to the first supermod. Im not getting into that, I enjoy neutrality on the mod forum. Right now we have RFB. What will we have as the next contender? I dunno, certainly not mine, i like being a small fish in the big sea, easier to blend in that way. :88)

[Werewolf13]

I'm wondering what the fuss is about myself. I love it. :hmm:

Are the skies in y'all's world pink? Are the bunny rabbits blue with yellow polka-dots?

Y'all need to check and make sure you're takin' the prescribed by your doctor dose of happy pills to be sure you haven't tripled up or something. :doh:

[Audie]

If appreciating the efforts of the Devs, and loving Naval Sims - no matter how buggy they are upon release, makes me a "Fan Boy"; then I guess I am a Fan Boy - and damn proud of it I might add! :up::sunny:


Fan Boys Unite!!!! :|\\

[kiwi_2005]

This is a good thread, im glad something positive has come out about SHIV, im yet to receive my game very soon, been coming in here and reading alot of negative stuff about SHIV that at times it makes me wonder is this game going to be total crap.
Maybe some ppl can't believe that sub games do go on after SH3, :) so they start up the game "Okay wheres the bugs, wheres the bugs! Ahh see I found one! Nope this game is crap" type of response.

Well my fears have been answered this game is going to :rock:

:up:

[AVGWarhawk]

This is a good thread, im glad something positive has come out about SHIV, im yet to receive my game very soon, been coming in here and reading alot of negative stuff about SHIV that at times it makes me wonder is this game going to be total crap.
Maybe some ppl can't believe that sub games do go on after SH3, :) so they start up the game "Okay wheres the bugs, wheres the bugs! Ahh see I found one! Nope this game is crap" type of response.

Well my fears have been answered this game is going to :rock:

:up:

The game is great!!! I'm really enjoying it. :yep:

[jerryt]

Same here. I am having a great time with the game. Last sub sim I had was Aces of the Deep! :o
This is a long way from the original Silent Hunter from SSI. I remember it took me days to get it installed and running on my mightly 386sx computer, lol.
Yeah it has some bugs, but they are not game killers for me. I'm on my 3rd patrol and just got spotted by the escorts of a convoy I was going to attack. They kept me down for a good three hours. great stuff! :up:

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm wondering what the fuss is about myself. I love it. :hmm:

Are the skies in y'all's world pink? Are the bunny rabbits blue with yellow polka-dots?

Y'all need to check and make sure you're doin the right dose of anti-depressant to be sure you're you haven't tripled up or something. :doh:

Why, yes! I see the game through rosy colored glasses. But my bunnies are yellow with blue spots:doh:.

[AVGWarhawk]

This is a good thread, im glad something positive has come out about SHIV, im yet to receive my game very soon, been coming in here and reading alot of negative stuff about SHIV that at times it makes me wonder is this game going to be total crap.
Maybe some ppl can't believe that sub games do go on after SH3, :) so they start up the game "Okay wheres the bugs, wheres the bugs! Ahh see I found one! Nope this game is crap" type of response.

Well my fears have been answered this game is going to :rock:

:up:


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110259

All the things they did right:yep:. It is a good thread for what is great in the game.

[PeriscopeDepth]

This thread is a breath of fresh air. I'm actually glad 1.2 isn't out yet, as if it was, I likely would be spending far too much time on computer games. And I need to finish this damn paper so I can get out of college.

PD

[Snuffy]

I'm new to the sub sim series with SH4. Not been blinded by SHIII II or I that I can recall.

There are some "oops, that was weird" moments, but for the most part, playing as full real as I can get it and doing the manual TDC as well.

Last night I've just completed my third mission in my third start of a career. I'm no master by any means of the term, but last night we wasted 4 merchants while doing a scounting mission in the Clebes(?) Sea.

I've added a couple mods and some of Ducimis' changes and am having a ball.

All those "anti" guys can go suck eggs. :yep:

[Banquet]

If appreciating the efforts of the Devs, and loving Naval Sims - no matter how buggy they are upon release, makes me a "Fan Boy"; then I guess I am a Fan Boy - and damn proud of it I might add! :up::sunny:


Fan Boys Unite!!!! :|\\

That pretty much sums me up too. Well said! :)

[mookiemookie]

I'm having a ton of fun so far. The naysayers are really missing out on a lot and patch 1.2 will make things even better!

[Meco]

Got SH4 March 23rd.

Applied the patch: 1.1

and only one mod: ParaB's Less radio message mod.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=108959

I'm on my 7th mission now and having a great time. :ahoy:

I managed to take damage and crawl home to pearl, took out several ships in 3 convoys and evaded hunting destroyers as they dropped charges. In submerged view I even saw the charges blow up near the sub as they dropped. Amazing stuff. :up:

The sunsets are awsome and the water above the surface is far improved from SH3, even though I dont use the clear water setting.

In my gaming time I usualy jump from game to game.. but since I got SH4, it's the only sim I play these days.

I don't know why so many are bitter about the minor shortfalls in the code. I mean.. Unless one was to join the navy of their country I just cant imagine it looking any more real.

I guess, I too am a fan of SH4, and I see no shame in liking a game I enjoy.

:rock:

[Cakewalk]

Hell yeah. SH4 is literally taking up all my free time.:D :rock:

[ReallyDedPoet]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110259

All the things they did right:yep:. It is a good thread for what is great in the game.

Thumbs up to that one:up::up:

[AVGWarhawk]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110259

All the things they did right:yep:. It is a good thread for what is great in the game.

Thumbs up to that one:up::up:


Yeah man...it was time for that thread.

[TheSatyr]

Unfortunately,I had to quit playing SH4. But only because of the shortcomings of my system. Need a new power supply and a new video card...but don't want to put out the money on a near dead pc...*lol*

From what little playing I did,I think In a year from now vanilla SH4(with all the future patches) will be regarded as a classic. The mods will make it into a monster.

(And by then we will have whole new threads about how DC2 or SH5 is a total piece of garbage...blah blah blah.).

[Grothesj2]

I had to upgrade my system with a new power supply and vid card. I dont regret spending the $300+ on it. SHIV plays very well now and I am having a great time with it. Yes there are bugs and issues but SHIII was worse for bugs and unplayability when it launched IMO.

[TheSatyr]

Well,my pc is about 3 1/2 years old and showing it's age. I'm going to wait till I can get a shiny new pc before messing with games like SH4 and Neverwinter Nights 2 again...but I'm patient and I know the wait will be worth it.

[ReallyDedPoet]

...but I'm patient and I know the wait will be worth it.
Yes it will be, by the time you get a new computer I am sure there will be some more great mods and hopefully the thing will be patched up:yep:

[Mush Martin]

Frankly I love the game but am still torn between two worlds..........

I am not done with 3 and I have only just begun with 4

its is going to be a long decade

MM

[ReallyDedPoet]

Frankly I love the game but am still torn between two worlds..........

I am not done with 3 and I have only just begun with 4

its is going to be a long decade

MM

I am there too Mush, I plan to have GWX and SH4 on my computer for awhile,
years probably:o:o

Last night I installed the patch, didn't re-boot:nope:, had some major stuttering, let out a couple of real " wtfs ", then realized my mistake:D:lol:

Re-booted and all was good:yep: ahhhh....patience.

RDP

[Nell Quick]

For myself, I've experienced one or two of the bugs mentioned - only yesterday my patrol came to an abrupt end when I tried to level out after a dive. But in general it's been pretty smooth sailing with SH4. My system certainly struggles with it, and if I'm considering going back to SH3 for the moment that'll be the reason why.

SH4 has its bugs, certainly. But most games do when they're new. And of course we could argue that it shouldn't be that way; that games should be held back until they're found to be in perfect working order. Of course that's impractical in this money-driven corporate world. But as someone mentioned in a thread elsewhere, I always imagine how frustrated the actual developers must feel when they're forced by grasping publishers to release a game they haven't tested enough and know has flaws (First Encounters, anyone?).

The fact is that the developers have toiled long and hard over this game, and I for one think they should be given credit for that. They've done a magnificent job, and they've done it so that we, the boat-simming public, can enjoy an accurate re-creation of World War II submarine warfare for our entertainment and education. I firmly believe that every developer would want to release a perfect game to the market. Practical concerns mean they can't possibly do that: because every project can always be improved, any release date would be too early for them. So we, the consumer, either get flawed releases which then have to be patched repeatedly by devs or the community; or we never get to see the game at all, as in the case of Elite IV, because the developers decide to hold onto it until it's perfect, which it'll never be. Then of course there's the simple fact that the PC is a sod of a platform to develop for, because there isn't a single specification as there is with the 'toy' consoles: console games simply don't need the complex resilience built in that PC titles have to have, and which must take up a hefty proportion of development time.

But it seems as a community - and I know that in Britain at least this extends to many areas of life, if not all, and not just computer games - it takes us a New York minute to start whinging about something, and letters of complaint fly like confetti if something isn't perfect; but we're very slow and very grudging to extend praise. I put it down to the 'I know my rights' mentality that's become so prevalent, where we seem to think that freedom and democracy mean "I have the right to have everything I want the moment I want it, and anyone telling me I can't is a terrorist".

Sorry. I don't mean to start a political tirade here. But it does make me angry that there's such a disparity between our eagerness to jump on the negatives and our reluctance to acknowledge the positives. And yes, I know that's a complaint. Ironic, isn't it? ;)

I for one would love to see this situation reversed. Yes, there are faults with SH4, and with lots of other things. And yes, those faults should be reported - I'm not advocating a passive community that simply takes what it's given without comment, or with unreserved praise whether the product is bugged or not. And sometimes there are pieces of software (be they games or more serious apps) that really should never have seen the light of day. I know: I work on one in my office. But I'd really like to see some people taking a moment or two to think about what's involved in a project like this; to offer credit where it's due; to appreciate the work that's put in and the difficulties that developers face; and to be willing to see a flawed product as something other than a personal affront. Yes, games cost money, and yes, for your buck you should expect a working product - but the fact is we have a working product. If you're playing SH4 then I'm betting in more cases than not you're a long-time gamer. If that's true, then you should hopefully agree that the $50 (or local equivalent) that you forked out for SH4 wasn't a straight-out purchase of a sealed end product: it was an investment in something that hopefully is going to improve over time, just as SH3 did. After all, the price tag on SH3 when I bought it was £20. It's now almost a completely different game than it was, what with dev patches and community mods, and it still only cost me £20.

I'm going to stop ranting shortly. I'll just say in conclusion that, in general, people do what they do as best they can within the constraints of their own ability and their situation. Again, this applies as much to real-world life as it does to computer game development. I know that I work better when I think my efforts are appreciated; and I know that I'm less inclined to help someone who lays into me, calls me every name under the sun, and questions my parentage all because they're a bit upset that I haven't given them exactly what they want. I have to try to be professional, sure, but it's made a damn sight more difficult in the latter case. I don't think there're that many posts on here that go to those extremes - but there're a lot of people pouring a lot of negativity onto these boards, and I can't help but feel that the developers might be more encouraged to work harder for us, and to go on to produce more games for us, if they were offered a little more positive feedback - or at least if we could be a little less irate about the problems we bring to their attention.

Right, flame away... :cry:

[ReallyDedPoet]

My system certainly struggles with it, and if I'm considering going back to SH3 for the moment that'll be the reason why.
Hopefully you can getan upgrade soon, I have a new build, so it is nice to have the experience of SH4:yep:



The fact is that the developers have toiled long and hard over this game, and I for one think they should be given credit for that.

Sorry. I don't mean to start a political tirade here. But it does make me angry that there's such a disparity between our eagerness to jump on the negatives and our reluctance to acknowledge the positives. And yes, I know that's a complaint. Ironic, isn't it? ;)
Both good, 10 positives are brought down by 1 negative, a sad but true part of human nature:nope:

:ping:

I'll just say in conclusion that, in general, people do what they do as best they can within the constraints of their own ability and their situation. Again, this applies as much to real-world life as it does to computer game development. I know that I work better when I think my efforts are appreciated; and I know that I'm less inclined to help someone who lays into me, calls me every name under the sun, and questions my parentage all because they're a bit upset that I haven't given them exactly what they want. I have to try to be professional, sure, but it's made a damn sight more difficult in the latter case. I don't think there're that many posts on here that go to those extremes - but there're a lot of people pouring a lot of negativity onto these boards, and I can't help but feel that the developers might be more encouraged to work harder for us, and to go on to produce more games for us, if they were offered a little more positive feedback - or at least if we could be a little less irate about the problems we bring to their attention.

Right, flame away... :cry:
Well said. Like your part as well about PCs being a difficult platform to build for. There is so much varied hardware that I am sure it must be hell to try to make a game that meets or is compliant with the various systems.

Good post, Rants can be positive as well. Nobody is turning a blind-eye to the current bugs issues with the game, I would not encourage that either, but people need to chill a bit and enjoy this sim for what it currently is and will be, a rocking, damn-fine sub-sim:rock::rock:

RDP

[StandingCow]

I agree the game is enjoyable, but some of the bugs have been bad enough to cause me to wait on the patch before I play again... I just don't want to ruin the fun by getting annoyed at the game.

I love the game, too much to not wait.

[ReallyDedPoet]

I agree the game is enjoyable, but some of the bugs have been bad enough to cause me to wait on the patch before I play again... I just don't want to ruin the fun by getting annoyed at the game.

I love the game, too much to not wait.
I am using the time to enjoy it for what it is, getting used to the differences from SH3 ( which took awhile ) plus experimenting with some of the mods that
are being put out:yep:

[Bilge_Rat]

I had been looking forward to SH4 for a long time since I had good memories of SH1 and I have always been a PTO fanboy, but when I first saw all the negative posts, I seriously thought of not buying the game.

So far however, I am very happy, I have noticed a lot of improvements over SH3, both graphically and under the hood. The devs have done their homework, all the important stuff is in. Sure there are a few bugs and historical errors, but I'm certain the devs/modders will fix that, after all Sh3 was more or less in the same state just after release.

The game is stable, works well and I'm having fun, what else matters.


:lurk:

[ReallyDedPoet]

I had been looking forward to SH4 for a long time since I had good memories of SH1 and I have always been a PTO fanboy, but when I first saw all the negative posts, I seriously thought of not buying the game.

So far however, I am very happy, I have noticed a lot of improvements over SH3, both graphically and under the hood. The devs have done their homework, all the important stuff is in. Sure there are a few bugs and historical errors, but I'm certain the devs/modders will fix that, after all Sh3 was more or less in the same state just after release.

The game is stable, works well and I'm having fun, what else matters.


:lurk:

Nice perspective, people were and are to quick to jump all over it:yep::yep:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Is all the fuss about. I have played this game in the various modes, still playing 1.0 ( installing the patch tonight ) and it rocks:up::up:. I have not even installed any mods yet, so it will only get better:yep:

Plus with the new patch on the horizon :hmm:

I am have GWX:up: installed as well, so right now is the best of both worlds for
sub-simmers:lol:

RDP


Edit: Maybe it is because I am more of a casual skipper:yep:, but this game still rocks, despite its many issues. As I mentioned above :roll: I have GWX as well, but people seem to want to compare SH4 with it, GWX only came out close to 2 years after SH3. What about comparing SH4 to its predecessor SH3 (Vanilla)?

[heartc]

It took 11 years to be back in a Fleet Boat*. Are there bugs? Yes. Can I think of any simulation coming out since about 1999 which did not have bugs? No. Is that a good thing? No, just a fact of life, just like that a patch is underway. Is the game playable? Heck yes. Calling the game unplayable like some do is nuts. What causes a CTD, the "A" key, is well known. Don't hit it - fixed. The calculation is not done properly for fast running torps? Run them slow. If you don't hit the target, the speed is not the problem, as I always run them slow and do hit. I heard they did that iRL anyway since the higher speed setting made the torps less reliable.
Sometimes I wonder if ppl sit in front of the computer and are indeed filing a list of things that bothers them and keep looking at it instead of playing the game. Same as with people looking at the FPS counter and are bothered if it peaks at anything below 100, never mind they won't actually be able to notice a difference from some 30 FPS upwards.

The game is not perfect and has bugs. And I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Just my 0.02$. :up:


* PA notwithstanding, probably excellent mod, but unfortunately many of the really bad issues of SHII remained as they were hardcoded. Anyone who really wants to see a game gone wrong, take a look at SHII. ;)

[ReallyDedPoet]

The game is not perfect and has bugs. And I'm enjoying the heck out of it. Just my 0.02$. :up:

* PA notwithstanding, probably excellent mod, but unfortunately many of the really bad issues of SHII remained as they were hardcoded. Anyone who really wants to see a game gone wrong, take a look at SHII. ;)

PA got the most of it, otherwise SH2 was pretty much a disaster:yep:

[Sir Big Jugs]

I know it is difficult to answer, but how many patches is UBI going to release for this game? For SHIII it was three then all was quiet. Does everyone here think two more patches for this game as well?

In about 11 hours from now I hope to be in front of my pc installing it!?!?!?

Hey, nice pbase gallery you got! I'm a fellow Canon-dSLR fan, and really enjoyed watching; especially the Pittsburgh-gallery, as I'll be moving there for two years soon and don't really know what it's like.

[Mylander]

For myself, I've experienced one or two of the bugs mentioned - only yesterday my patrol came to an abrupt end when I tried to level out after a dive. But in general it's been pretty smooth sailing with SH4. My system certainly struggles with it, and if I'm considering going back to SH3 for the moment that'll be the reason why.

SH4 has its bugs, certainly. But most games do when they're new. And of course we could argue that it shouldn't be that way; that games should be held back until they're found to be in perfect working order. Of course that's impractical in this money-driven corporate world. But as someone mentioned in a thread elsewhere, I always imagine how frustrated the actual developers must feel when they're forced by grasping publishers to release a game they haven't tested enough and know has flaws (First Encounters, anyone?).......................................... ................ little more positive feedback - or at least if we could be a little less irate about the problems we bring to their attention.

Right, flame away... :cry:

Right on NQ - I think many here are of the same mindset, but the "whiner crowd" is so loud and annoying, that yes, the do get noticed - unfortunately, much more than they should. Loud? Yes. Effective? I don't think so.

Losing the "black and white" thinking, and all-demanding mindset is a wonderful thing for everyone here, IMHO.

The game rocks. If you are considering buying it, by all means do it. I'm having a blast with it now, and it keeps getting better.

Regards,
Mylander

[SteamWake]

Its threads like these that make me realize I must be on lucky SOB