New WW2 Tank Sim on the Horizon

[rrohde]

** Crosspostd at SimHQ.com, but I figure, that this sim in-progress needs as much attention as it can get :) **


Hello everyone! Glad to see that there's tanksim forum here now, as Neals site has a huge following, and exposure to this new sim is important to the devs and producer. That's why I am posting this here, too:


It's my great pleasure to show you the first, authentic 3D Model shots of a new, not yet announced WW2 Tank Sim due out in Late 2006.
We all have been waiting for THAT ONE hard-core WW2 Tank Sim since "Panzer Elite", and this one is going to be "it".

I am in contact with the main-guy of the development team and would be happy to forward your thoughts, wishes and ideas to him.

Here are the first 3D-Model-Shots of that sim; please don't judge the textures, as they're a just placeholder...

And please don't forget that this is still a "work in progress".


Legal Notice: These images are posted with the permission of the developer and can be freely distributed!

Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.G with L48 gun, 1944, Eastern Front

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-11-09/Back_Left.jpg

See more of it here:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-11-09/

The Developers are asking for constructive criticism as well as feedback from the community!

So let's hear it!

[rrohde]

Some more Images of the 3D Models:

As always: these images show the current work-in-progress of the 3D model development...!

T-34/85 1944:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/T-34_85_1944/T348544_01.jpg

See more of this one here:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/T-34_85_1944/

T-34/85 1942:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/T-34_85_1942/T347642_01.jpg

See more of this one here:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/T-34_85_1942/


Tiger 1, Ausf. E:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/Tiger_Ausf_E/TIGER_E_01.jpg

See more of it here:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-28/Tiger_Ausf_E/

[rrohde]

Another set of images... consider them material to drool over - esp. for those of you that like to be inside the machine. The devs told me that 3 Crew Positions will be accessible and fully 3D animated. ;)

Rember: Images are "work-in-progress" and don't represent the quality of the final game!

T-34 85 3D animated Interior - Driver's Position:

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-29/T-34_85_interior_prototype/T348544_C_01.jpg

More here:
http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-12-29/T-34_85_interior_prototype/

[Skybird]

I know that there are a lot of people here that are in desperate need for a WWII tanksim.

Welcome aboard, btw, rrhode. Keep us informed. You have any ties to the developer? i ask because "the devs told me".

Oouch, and any word on wether it comes with or without Starforce? :cool:

I know that there are a lot of people here that are in desperate need for a WWII tanksim.

Welcome aboard, btw, rrhode. Keep us informed. You have any ties to the developer? i ask because "the devs told me".

Oouch, and any word on wether it comes with or without Starforce? :cool:

Thanks for the welcome :)

Yes - I am in contact with the devs and the producer. So I will try to keep you posted.

Starforce? Don't really know, as the Sim is only in pre-alpha currently....

[rrohde]

Just asked the producer of the Sim about Starforce, and he said that this will solely and only depend on the publisher, not the devs nor the producer... :)

So let's hope that a publisher that doesn't use Starforce will pick up the game once it is ready for shipping.... ;)

[2019]

That isn't looking so bad :up:
The both t34 might need to a short spare track up the front and some dig en rope gear at the sides. (i guess it will come in a later stage)

Actually i'm more curious for in game footage video's

Keep it up!

[Onkel Neal]

Very nice!

[rrohde]

That isn't looking so bad :up:
The both t34 might need to a short spare track up the front and some dig en rope gear at the sides. (i guess it will come in a later stage)

Actually i'm more curious for in game footage video's

Keep it up!

I am sure that some extra detailing will be added to the models in due time... :)

About the in-game footage: None available as of yet, sorry.

[blue3golf]

Models look great. Cant wait, I love the old school stuff the most.

[kaptkirkU4467]

This great stuff. :rock:

[tashgamper]

BRING IT ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[joea]

Panzers forward!!!!! :cool:

[joea]

Question for rrohde, will there be other units in the game, in particular infantry, bunkers, artillery, mgs, and "shudder" aircraft and antitank guns? Don't forget most tanks in WWII actually were used against infantry and mgs and were often countered or slowed down by anti-tank guns.

[rrohde]

Question for rrohde, will there be other units in the game, in particular infantry, bunkers, artillery, mgs, and "shudder" aircraft and antitank guns? Don't forget most tanks in WWII actually were used against infantry and mgs and were often countered or slowed down by anti-tank guns.

I forgot to mention that I am under a NDA, so my answers will be brief - hope you understand!

- Infantery will be modelled; to what extend, I don't know yet.
- MG nests I *assume* will be part of the infantery. Not sure
- Planes? I think so. That's all I can say.
- AT Guns? Prolly the same as with the MG nests.

I will keep you posted as more information becomes available to me.

[TteFAboB]

Paradise on Earth.

[BOMBADIER]

Just like to say about time we had "a ww2 tank sim", Panzer elite as been played to death by me.
From the looks of the initial graphic's on show,then it could be a corker, put me down for a copy :D :D :D

:up: I'll buy it! :rock:

as long as it does not include STARFORCE :down: :nope:

[Skybird]

:up: I'll buy it! :rock:

as long as it does not include STARFORCE :down: :nope:

My talking.

Maybe it would be a good idea to start any kind of initiative in tank forums and have people sign any form of petition to make the publisher aware of how many customers he will loose when he is using SF.

It's up to you, guys. Make yourself heared!

The developer of SBP had started an open debate in public in august and september, to see people's reactions to various suggested copy protections. The dongle received most sympathy, while SF received almost none.

[Bluewings]

USB Dongle protection for Steel Beasts Pro PE comes from :

http://wibu.com/technologies.php?lang=en

Cheers .

[rrohde]

Sorry for the long delay, but apparantly the devs didn't have anything to show until now. And even now it's "just" another 3D Model, this time a Su-85:

(I had to increase the brightness-level a tad, as the screenshots were taken with a dark monitor-setting.)

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-02-20/Su85_0003.jpg

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-02-20/Su85_0001.jpg

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-02-20/Su85_0002.jpg


I hope to have something more interesting for you next time... :)

[rrohde]

Ohh.. today is a good day!

I just got two more images from the developers. They show the Work-In-Progress of the Tiger 1's interior.

The driver's position:
http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-02-20a/T6_Driver_01.jpg


The gunner's position:
http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-02-20a/T6_Gunner_01.jpg


This is shaping up to somethine nice, I'd say ... :)

[Razman23]

After looking at the pics of R/L and CG tank innards, I cant see ANY reason why a person would want to be inside one of these things during WWII!!!!!!

Cramped, smelly, hot or cold, no where to go when hit............definitely a death trap.

What would be cool would be an Africa Korp campaign!!!!!!!

German, Eye-tie, and Brit tanks running across the desert.

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....good.

[RedChico]

As long as it has realistic physics.
For me all this eye candy its just some bonus feacture.

[TteFAboB]

Like T-72 Balkans on Fire. It doesn't look too bad, the graphics are at least (exaggerating down a bit) as good as SBP, but the physics are way, WAY far behind SBP. And I'll take SBP physics over T-72 graphics anytime.

[Onkel Neal]

Like T-72 Balkans on Fire. It doesn't look too bad, the graphics are at least (exaggerating down a bit) as good as SBP, but the physics are way, WAY far behind SBP. And I'll take SBP physics over T-72 graphics anytime.

Agreed. Graphics are important, I want to see as much realism as possible. But physics and gameplay cannot be neglected. I would like both.

[rrohde]

While we all wait on the official announcement, the devs allowed me to post some shots of another vehicle - a StuG:

They said, that in the initial release of the game it won't be drivable (thus AI), but hinted that with a possible add-on/expansion that might change... :)

Here we go (as always - WORK IN PROGRESS):

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-03-22/StuG40_G_01.jpg

Here's some more images:
http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-03-22/


The StuG has always been one of my favourites... ;)

[Abraham]

Yes, all this looks very, very promising, but the physics will in the end decide whether the game will be a succes or not.

[BaLrOg]

:up:

Hello all,

Well I just upped my forum membership by a factor of one on the basis of this thread. If its survives the alpha stages and makes it to the shelves as a 'proper' simulation then you have at least one garunteed unit sold.

Oh yeah and thanks to the guy's from the SteelBeast's chat that pointed me over here!

Many thanks for info rrohde

And for the Devs

'If you build it they will come'

P.s

Any idea of when we can expect to see a Dev site?

[retired1212]

will be waiting for its launch. Budget reserved :D

[blizzard_beast]

Looks excellent, can't wait for this game! Is there any way to get on the beta-testing squad? :hmm:

[Seminole]

You can count on at least 3 "sells" from these quarters.

A good tank sim is soooooo looooong overdue!

[Abraham]

You can count on at least 3 "sells" from these quarters.

A good tank sim is soooooo looooong overdue!
I would buy it without a second(s) thought...

[HEMISENT]

Count me in too-as long as it's a sim and not a shoot-em up for consoles.
Very disappointed about PE-Action. The reports are that it's just too arcadey-won't go near the thing.

[rrohde]

A couple of new shots - still pre-alpha, still prototype version:

http://games.iddk.ru/images/extra/T34-2006-05-31-16-01-35-00.jpg
http://games.iddk.ru/images/extra/T34-2006-05-31-16-01-52-57.jpg

Here's the latest on the Tiger Ausf. E turret interior - not fully textured yet, but you get an idea on the 3D interior's quality:

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-05-28/SH_0005.jpg

[fargel]

:o damn that looks awesome. aggghhh i want to buy it!!

[Konovalov]

Paradise on Earth.

Or hell on earth if you are looking down the barrel of a 88mm KwK 43 gun barrel belonging to a Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausf. B. :/\\x:

Seriously this looks promising. I will be watching this space over the next few months for news. Fingers and legs crossed. :up:

[Onkel Neal]

Keep them coming, looks really good :up:

[rrohde]

Heex from IDDK made a 1280x1024 wallpaper on SimHQ.com of one of the newer images I posted above..

Get it here at SimHQ.com's thread: http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=000606#000000

... or directly here: http://games.iddk.ru/images/extra/T34_vs_Tiger_1_1280x1024.jpg Cheers, Rainer

[rrohde]

(crossposted at SimHQ.com)

Ok... Finally some new images for you all to see.

You can clearly see that the devs weren't sitting around doing nothing. The textures, esp. on the T-34 interior, are breathtaking. Just look at the details.

The devs said that they're still working on the lighting, but to me it looks already very, very good....


http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-06-20/T3485_Driver.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-06-20/TanksOnMarsh.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-06-20/SoldierInVillage.jpg

[Skybird]

Looks good indeed. Hope they release a demo in time to show the AI, tactics and physics.

[joea]

Saving for a new system. :yep:

[dark_wolf]

Saving for a new system. :yep:

Oh I can't wait this one to be released. I have been waiting so looong for a WWII Tank sim to come out... :lol:

[GT182]

Any new News ?

[SubSerpent]

Those pics look SHWEEEET!!!!:rock:


I love EVERYTHING WWII, so bring it all on baby!!! This sim will get a buy from me as well!!!

Will it have a map editor/ mission editor included similar to that of OFP or Steel Beasts Pro PE?

[Skybird]

This is your friendly HQ.

We just edited message of SubSerpent. No juvenile language in this forum, please.

HQ out.

[SubSerpent]

This is your friendly HQ.

We just edited message of SubSerpent. No juvenile language in this forum, please.

HQ out.


Errr :arrgh!:

[Kpt Lothar]

do you have webpage with screenshots where i can check up progress?

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Oh boy oh boy!! I want!!

I hope it will run on a dual core 2.2 Ghz CPU w/2 Gigs of RAM

[rrohde]

Long time no talk, eh?

Well, most of the stuff goes on over at SimHQ, but here I am, with a new pre-alpha test version and I thought I snap some screenies and mod them up a bit in "The Gimp". Hope you like them... :D

Belorussia, Summer 1944:

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-09-30/tvst_004_bw.png

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-09-30/tvst_005_bw.png



(taken from a pre-alpha version of "WWII Battle Tanks: T-34 vs Tiger"; cross posted under SimHQ's "Turret Talk" in the 'WWII Battle Tanks: T-34 vs. Tiger - official announcement' thread... )

[nikimcbee]

:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock: bring on the T-34s:up:

[rrohde]

Here are some more images from the pre-alpha I am testing.

This sequence shows me taking position in the rubble of a destroyed Russian cabin.

From there I was able to engage 2 Pz.IVs and some infantry hiding in the bushes... :D


http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0009_1.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0010_1.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0011_1.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0015_1.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0016_1.jpg

http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2006-10-02/SH_0019_1.jpg

[AJ!]

Awsome stuff. Any word on a release date?

[Konovalov]

When it's ready of course. ;) This tank sim continues to look promising. :yep:

[dean_acheson]

any updates on this?

[phatmatt]

any updates on this?

I second that! :up:

[Konovalov]

Guys,

Check this out at SimHQ:

http://www.simhq.com/_land2/land_072a.html

Good news. :yep: However it does appear a little limited in scope with two tanks that can be controlled in the T34/85 and the Tiger VIa not to mention it is set in 1944 only which is a bit of a bummer. :-?

[TwistedFemur]

Another link

http://games.iddk.ru/en/?pg=gm39

[TteFAboB]

(...)a bit of a bummer

On SIMHQ the guy did say "we know how to make games look great" and not "we know how to make games you'll love so much and are so much fun you'll still be playing them 5 years from now!"

[Venatore]

U-Boat Captain :hmm:

Luftwaffe Pilot :hmm:

and now a Tiger tank Commander :hmm:

ohhhh it's all too much :doh:

[joea]

(...)a bit of a bummer
On SIMHQ the guy did say "we know how to make games look great" and not "we know how to make games you'll love so much and are so much fun you'll still be playing them 5 years from now!"

My understanding was this may be the first of a series with other tanks, theatres and periods to be released in sequels if the first meets with success.

[TteFAboB]

Sort of like IL2. That would be great.

[Konovalov]

Sort of like IL2. That would be great.

:yep: I can only hope.

[Rick Martin]

[quote=rrohde]** Crosspostd at SimHQ.com, but I figure, that this sim in-progress needs as much attention as it can get :) **


Hello everyone! Glad to see that there's tanksim forum here now, as Neals site has a huge following, and exposure to this new sim is important to the devs and producer. That's why I am posting this here, too:


It's my great pleasure to show you the first, authentic 3D Model shots of a new, not yet announced WW2 Tank Sim due out in Late 2006.
We all have been waiting for THAT ONE hard-core WW2 Tank Sim since "Panzer Elite", and this one is going to be "it".

I am in contact with the main-guy of the development team and would be happy to forward your thoughts, wishes and ideas to him.

Here are the first 3D-Model-Shots of that sim; please don't judge the textures, as they're a just placeholder...

And please don't forget that this is still a "work in progress".


Legal Notice: These images are posted with the permission of the developer and can be freely distributed!

Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf.G with L48 gun, 1944, Eastern Front


http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-11-09/Back_Left.jpg

See more of it here:
http://halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2005-11-09/

The Developers are asking for constructive criticism as well as feedback from the community!

So let's hear it![/quote



WOW, looks great so far. Was hoping for US stuff like Shermans, Pershings, tank destroyers and dare I say it M3 Lees and Stuarts? Yeah, I like US stuff. After all we did win (didn't we?) Anyway the shots you posted look fantastic. The option to add a little "grafitti" to the tank hulls would be nice. The Russian armor was noted for its propaganda/patriotic slogans (my favorite--"onward to Berlin, lair of the Fascist Beasts") Rick Martin

[rrohde]

Here are a few more images, taken from the latest alpha version as of Jan. 2007

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2007-01-21a/SH_0028.jpg

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2007-01-21a/SH_0006.jpg

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2007-01-21b/SH_0040.jpg


More images in the dedicated WWII Battle Tanks: T-34 vs. Tiger forum on SimHQ.com: http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=104&PHPSESSID=

[rrohde]

WOW, looks great so far. Was hoping for US stuff like Shermans, Pershings, tank destroyers and dare I say it M3 Lees and Stuarts? Yeah, I like US stuff. After all we did win (didn't we?) Anyway the shots you posted look fantastic. The option to add a little "grafitti" to the tank hulls would be nice. The Russian armor was noted for its propaganda/patriotic slogans (my favorite--"onward to Berlin, lair of the Fascist Beasts") Rick Martin

IDDK and G5 plan for add-ons to the series. The western front is definately planned for the "WWII Battle Tanks: ...." series! ;)

[GT182]

Seeing all the great interior views makes me hope that using Tracker IR with vectoring software might be incorporated in it... as in FS9.

And the graphics are looing very good. :)

[U-5000]

This tank simulation really looks nice, but it would even be better if the German Panther G was modeled in this as it was also in production at this time and took part in numerous battles at Kursk. I don't know if are just trying to model two of the main tanks that was used but the Panther G and the Panzer IV H were heavily used at this time. Will any of these units be in the game or not. I know the King Tiger may not of been in this but the other two Tanks should be in this also.
Just wondering what others think?
I think your modeling of the tanks you have made is outstanding and the modeling of the country side also. Looking for a realistic simulation and realistic gunnery and physic models of the tanks in the game. U-5000

[TteFAboB]

Would the devs consider selling this technology to WWIIOL or accept to be hired to re-model all tank interiors with this level of quality?

Well, maybe it's best to wait before making that suggestion. Who knows if this will cripple my PC...

[Konovalov]

Anyone know if this WW2 tank sim is ever going to see the light of day? :-?

[Konovalov]

Not to worry. Found some news about it over at good old Wargamer site. It's still on but delayed as per the following: http://www.wargamer.com/news/news.asp?nid=5375

Thanks goodness for that. :up:

[dean_acheson]

are they planning on a beta for this?

i can't find a demo

[Schultzy]

http://www.halfevil.de/ww2scalemodeler/gallery/rainer_rohde/ww2-tank-sim/2007-01-21a/SH_0028.jpg

I absolutely love this shot, the chipped Zimmerit is just :rock:

Hoping for more news soon :)

[nikimcbee]

I can't wait for this! The T-34's paint texture looks great.

[Task Force]

This looks good. great graohics. Hows game play for those of you with the demo.;)