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Abraham
12-31-05, 03:02 AM
What I expect of SHIV are:

"EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE ANTISUBMARINE ACTIVITY VINCINITY BUNGO SUIDO" (COMSUBPAC)

In other words, I want Bungo Pete with his task force and his elaborate antisubmarine tactics in Area Seven!

Sniper_1
12-31-05, 10:17 AM
Seconded......

:up: :up: :up:

Sniper_1

DAB
12-31-05, 12:18 PM
And under no circumstances do I want to be able to get into Tokyo Bay :D

Sailor Steve
12-31-05, 02:30 PM
Why not, as long as it's realistically defended...meaning you can try, but you'll die.

Safe-Keeper
12-31-05, 08:33 PM
Let's put it this way: I shouldn't be able to breeze trough Gibraltar simply by going to the lowest speed setting, order silent running, and hug the bottom.

flyingdane
01-04-06, 11:11 PM
What I expect of SHIV are:

"EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE ANTISUBMARINE ACTIVITY VINCINITY BUNGO SUIDO" (COMSUBPAC)

In other words, I want Bungo Pete with his task force and his elaborate antisubmarine tactics in Area Seven!

Hehehe... I love it! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v695/flyingdane/143.gif

John Channing
01-05-06, 03:11 PM
And I want the Bungo Pete from the BOOK... not the movie.

Much, MUCH better!

JCC

Abraham
01-05-06, 03:52 PM
And I want the Bungo Pete from the BOOK... not the movie.

Much, MUCH better!

JCC
There's only one Run Silent, Run Deep and one Bungo Pete, John.
Any other claim is an imposter!

Sniper_1
01-10-06, 08:06 PM
Exactly.... :up:

Ducimus
01-10-06, 10:19 PM
Let's put it this way: I shouldn't be able to breeze trough Gibraltar simply by going to the lowest speed setting, order silent running, and hug the bottom.

Heh, i did this in an IXD2. Pretty sad.

Abraham
01-22-06, 04:27 AM
Run Silent, Run Deep has everything SHIV should have; not just Bungo Pete and his elaborate anti-submarine tactics, but faulty torpedoes, an U-boat (!), a Q-ship, a Japanese sub (!), air patrols, an aircrew life-saving mission, a man over board-situation, attack on Sampams, low crew morale problems...

Torplexed
01-22-06, 02:05 PM
It's been eons since I read the Edward L. Beach novel but I've always enjoyed the movie based on it. Probably my second favorite after Das Boot. A taut, well-acted action drama that doesn't have a love interest tacked on to get in the way. Being in black and white serves to enhance the wartime nature of the film. Plus, there is lots and lots of great footage of a Gato-class boat underway. No CG effects here. The models for the battle and submerged sequences are probably a bit painful for modern viewers to watch...but hey! It was the 1950s. Models and stock footage was what you had to go with.

Can't resist poking a little fun at Clark Gable's most famous physical attribute tho. ;)

http://zioxville.homestead.com/files/RSRD.jpg

CedricB
01-25-06, 04:56 PM
I remember a long time ago I went to Disney World (by long time ago I mean it was 1990) and we got to see this tank where they could do "sea effects".

They got some poor volunteer from the group to go stand in this mock up WWII era sub bridge and they straffed him with "aircraft" (all you saw was the water jets and airplane sound effects), shot at him with a destroyer, and then torpedoed him.

The Coup de grace was when he got hit by a "wave" from the wave simulator during a "storm". Lucky dog got to take home a VHS of him there spliced in with other footage of everything shooting at him and a sea background behind him thanks to computers.

cmdrk
05-18-06, 12:39 PM
What I like about the movie is that it was real sub gear they worked with.

FAdmiral
05-18-06, 02:02 PM
Will the Japanese AI be able to pick up your garbage?
If it does, thats realism !!


JIM

DeepSix
05-18-06, 05:06 PM
Will the Japanese AI be able to pick up your garbage?
If it does, thats realism !!


JIM

I'm going to make sure that one of my crewmen is named "Kraut" Mueller just to test the AI. :cool:

The Noob
05-18-06, 05:32 PM
Let's put it this way: I shouldn't be able to breeze trough Gibraltar simply by going to the lowest speed setting, order silent running, and hug the bottom.

If you are refering to SH3, try this!

1.Go to Data\Cfg
2.Open "Sim.cfg" in notepad.
3.Set the "Sonar Detection time" to something from 15-5.
4.Set the "Hydrophone Noise factor" to 0.3
5.Save the Changes.

And ready are the "Expert Destroyers". :know:

CaptainNemo
05-19-06, 06:48 AM
Bungo Pete rules ^^

http://www.krueger83.de/attack1.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack2.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack3.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/anvesieren.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack4.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack7.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack5.jpg

http://www.krueger83.de/attack6.jpg

Rosencrantz
05-19-06, 05:27 PM
Somehow I like third picture in CptnNemos post. Hope we'll see something like that in SHIV.

-RC-

FAdmiral
05-19-06, 05:49 PM
I have been in the conning tower of the USS Drum (Gato)
It is very small. 5 or 6 men in there, not on my watch....


JIM

Ducimus
05-25-06, 05:47 PM
I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.

Abraham
05-25-06, 09:32 PM
I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.
Read the book!
Ten times better than the movie...

Sailor Steve
05-26-06, 11:13 AM
I watched the movie the other day on vhs, and its classic hollywood.

The sub is entirely too spacious, and the active sonar pings whenver they were submerged was driving me nuts.
U.S. boats had active sonar, I think it was just mentioned in another thread that the Japanese pinged constantly, which helped the subs know where they were, and I think that the interiors were real.

I could easily be wrong on all three points, though. :lost:

DeepSix
05-26-06, 12:33 PM
By Hollywood standards, they took considerable pains to make it accurate. They hired a World War II skipper (Rear Admiral Rob Roy MacGregor - no really, that's his name!) as the official technical adviser and seems like there were actually several submariners involved in some capacity (and of course the book was written by a submariner). They probably took some Hollywood license with the technical details here and there for the sake of establishing atmosphere for the viewer, but overall I think it's amazingly well done.

Ducimus
05-30-06, 05:23 PM
ive acutally read a number of Edward Beach's books. The active sonar pings bugged me because it was seemingly whenever they were submerged. Thats a classical hollywood gimmick to add mood or atmosphere. Thats how i interpetted it anyway. its like whenver you see a sub in any old movie, what do you hear? *ping* *ping *ping* even when theres nothing around. Call it a pet peeve, but that grates on me. The sub was too spacious in the galley/crew mess. The conning tower and control room seemed semi accurate, but the crew mess was waaaaaaayyyy too big.

DeepSix
05-30-06, 06:33 PM
...The sub was too spacious in the galley/crew mess. The conning tower and control room seemed semi accurate, but the crew mess was waaaaaaayyyy too big.

Yeah, but you gotta put the camera somewhere.;)

DeepSix
05-31-06, 11:40 AM
One thing I noticed in watching the movie is that you only hear the pinging when there are enemy ships about - so it seems like the intention was to portray the constant active ping employed by the Japanese (not the sub pinging).

[OT edit: Also - I noticed that Clark Gable has a very noticeable tremor in most of his scenes... Does anybody know if he had Parkinson's?]

Bungo_Pete
06-01-06, 09:35 PM
Bungo certainly does rule:yep: got this one on DVD awhile back.

Sailor Steve
06-15-06, 12:18 PM
I've often posted on how much bigger and more habitable (user friendly?) US fleet boats were than u-boats, but upon watching it again last night I got quite a shock. I was watching one of the scenes with Gable and Lancaster together and I suddenly realized that they weren't in the control room in that scene; they were in the CONNING TOWER! Six men on regular watch plus the skipper and the XO...in the conning tower! In Das Boot there was barely room for the captain and his 1WO! Of course their attack scope was powered and had a seat, but still...:o

NEON DEON
06-15-06, 01:41 PM
I've often posted on how much bigger and more habitable (user friendly?) US fleet boats were than u-boats, but upon watching it again last night I got quite a shock. I was watching one of the scenes with Gable and Lancaster together and I suddenly realized that they weren't in the control room in that scene; they were in the CONNING TOWER! Six men on regular watch plus the skipper and the XO...in the conning tower! In Das Boot there was barely room for the captain and his 1WO! Of course their attack scope was powered and had a seat, but still...:o

I got a chance to see the Pampanito in San Fransisco Bay a few years back. A Balao class fleet submarine. Unfortunately they were renovating the conning tower and I could not get in to see it. But the web site has some great shots of the conning tower.

http://www.maritime.org/tour/tctvr.htm


After seeing the pictures of the conning tower, I just have to go back and see her again. While the boat interior appears to be big, you realy have to visit a fleet boat and tour it to get to see how cramped the thing would be to live in for 3 months at a strech with about 80 other guys.

Anyways back to Run Silent, Run Deep. I have convinced my wife to order one less chick flick from Net Flix this week and replace it with this one! :D

DeepSix
06-15-06, 02:07 PM
[...Anyways back to Run Silent, Run Deep. I have convinced my wife to order one less chick flick from Net Flix this week and replace it with this one! :D

You're a good man for doing that - fight the good fight!:-j

Wilko
06-23-06, 09:33 PM
Another vote for the Run Silent Campaign