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Smaragdadler
10-02-05, 01:37 AM
Holy Squid! Photos Offer First Glimpse of Live Deep-Sea Giant
James Owen
for National Geographic News
September 27, 2005

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/images/050927_giant_squid.jpg

Like something straight out of a Jules Verne novel, an enormous tentacled creature looms out of the inky blackness of the deep Pacific waters.

But this isn't science fiction. A set of extraordinary images captured by Japanese scientists marks the first-ever record of a live giant squid (Architeuthis) in the wild.

The animal—which measures roughly 25 feet (8 meters) long—was photographed 2,950 feet (900 meters) beneath the North Pacific Ocean. Japanese scientists attracted the squid toward cameras attached to a baited fishing line.

The scientists say they snapped more than 500 images of the massive cephalopod before it broke free after snagging itself on a hook. They also recovered one of the giant squid's two longest tentacles, which severed during its struggle.

The photo sequence, taken off Japan's Ogasawara Islands in September 2004, shows the squid homing in on the baited line and enveloping it in "a ball of tentacles."

Tsunemi Kubodera of the National Science Museum in Tokyo and Kyoichi Mori of the Ogasawara Whale Watching Association report their observations this week in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B.

"Architeuthis appears to be a much more active predator than previously suspected, using its elongated feeding tentacles to strike and tangle prey," the researchers write.

They add that the squid was found feeding at depths where no light penetrates even during the day.

Giant Breakthrough

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Despite people's fascination with this deep-sea behemoth, the giant squid's life and habits have remained largely a mystery. The little information known has been mostly based on dead and dying specimens that were caught by commercial fishing boats or washed ashore.

The mysterious creature has inspired countless sea monster tales and has been the subject of various scientific expeditions.

Since the mid 1990s there have been a number of research trips in search of giant squid. Cameras attached to deep-diving subs or sperm whales have been used to try to capture the elusive animals on film, but without success.

The Japanese researchers used sperm whales as guides to help them pinpoint likely giant squid haunts. Over the years whalers have reported finding a high number of large squid beaks in the mammals' stomachs, pegging sperm whales as primary predators of large squid.

The images are generating considerable excitement among squid experts.

"I think it's wonderful that we've finally got a picture of a living giant squid," said Richard Ellis, a research associate at the American Museum of Natural History in New York and author of The Search for the Giant Squid.

"I thought it would only be a matter of time before someone got images of Architeuthis," he added.

"After all, it's not an endangered species, not even all that rare, and it's one of the largest of all invertebrates. So the Japanese film finally breaks through and renders the statement 'nobody has ever seen a living giant squid' inoperative."

Squid expert Martin Collins of the British Antarctic Survey based in Cambridge, England, says the new images are a "fantastic" achievement.

The marine biologist says he was skeptical that a dedicated giant squid hunt would succeed. He thought the first wild sighting would probably come by accident.

"Fair play to these guys who've made the effort, gone out there and looked in what they thought was a good area, and found it," he said.

Hunting for Clues

Collins is especially interested in clues the images might provide to the way giant squid swim and hunt in the deep ocean.

"Seeing the animals on film gives you a tremendous insight into how they live down there," he said. "It shows they are pretty active animals, and that answers a big question that's been out there for some time."

Collins says there were two competing schools of thought among giant squid experts.

"One was the idea that [giant squid] were fairly inactive and just drifted around, dangling their tentacles below them like fishing lures to catch what came by," he said.

"The other theory was that they were actually quite active. This new evidence supports this, suggesting they are active predators which can move reasonably quickly."

"The efforts the squid went to untangle itself [from the baited fishing line] also shows they are capable of quite strong and rapid movement," he added.

The study team reports that the severed tentacle repeatedly gripped the boat deck and crew after it was hauled aboard. The squid's tentacles are armed with suckers, each ringed with tiny teeth to help snare prey.

Measuring 18 feet (5.5 meters) long, analysis of the tentacle confirmed it came from a giant squid and allowed the researchers to estimate the total length of the animal.

But the researchers caution that their data assume the tentacle was severed at its base. If not, the squid may have been considerably larger. The longest giant squid on record measured 59 feet (18 meters), including its two elongated tentacles.

Shedding Light on Giant Squid

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Giant squid, along with their close cousins colossal squid (Mesonychoteuthis), have the largest eyes of any animal.

"Giant squid do have particularly large eyes, which would suggest vision is important to them. Having a large eye isn't unusual in deep-sea animals—you see it quite often in fish."

The fact that the animal caught on film was swimming in total darkness suggests the species detects prey using alternative light sources. "The only light down there is likely to be light produced by other animals," said Collins of the British Antarctic Survey.

The Japanese team thinks that research techniques similar to their own could be used to bring about more close encounters with giant squid. Ellis of the American Museum of Natural History agrees.

"I'm sure we can learn a lot from an analysis of these images," he said. "And now that we have an idea of where to look for [the squid], we will undoubtedly get more pictures."

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/0927_050927_giant_squid.html

Iceman
10-02-05, 06:06 PM
Very cool...too bad these scientists couldn't think of a better way to attract them then using a line that may accidently cut off one of thier tentacles...num nutz.Maybe they could just drop small remote cameras mounted on bases etc like old water mines with bait on em and just have it record as things swim by em...who knows...poor squiddy. :lurk:

Hellcat
10-02-05, 06:53 PM
I was thinking the same thing Iceman, even remote cameras could do the work without lines, I suppose these meathods are required when dealing with unquie circumstances such as these...

Damo1977
10-03-05, 08:43 AM
I watched a proram where there is currently a New Zealander, capturing baby giant squids. But that was a good 6 months back. And he was looking after them, he found out that they don't react well with foam boxes and salt water. They all died in his first catch, cause of reaction of foam and salt. But he learnt the trick and I would like to find out how it is going.........

retired1212
10-03-05, 08:52 AM
Tame those squids and use them on enemy subs :arrgh!:

Abraham
10-07-05, 04:27 PM
I've heard on the news that it was a relatively small one. There seem to be much bigger examples...
Next stop: Mermaids!
:D

Type941
10-08-05, 08:37 PM
what is this was the last one, and they just killed it to prove it exists(ed)? :hmm:

Smaragdadler
10-08-05, 11:31 PM
At least in the article it is said:
"After all, it's not an endangered species, not even all that rare, ...

Sulikate
10-09-05, 06:40 PM
wow... impressive :o From now on, I'll think twice before going to the beach :o :o

Christian Reich
10-09-05, 06:48 PM
here and i thought my friend captain nemo was a quack.

Wait that was a squid right? not an octopus?

geetrue
02-12-07, 02:24 PM
What if we get a big fishing boat and go down yonder and catch us a giant squid ...

Then we could put it in a big aquariumn in Arizona maybe and have everyone stop and take a look ...

We could make millions ... anybody in?

Smaragdadler
02-12-07, 02:49 PM
What if we get a big fishing boat and go down yonder and catch us a giant squid ...
Giant Squid is out, everybody has seen it now. You must go for a living Colossal Squiddy. For a good start search in the ...abyssal environment down in Antarctica. :)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39045000/gif/_39045759_colossal_squid2_203inf.gif

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2910849.stm

AVGWarhawk
02-12-07, 03:04 PM
We knew there are large squid. Sperm Whales like the tasty creatures and dive deep for them. When the squid uses it sucker in attempt to fend off the whale, the sucker would leave a scar. These sucker marks were as bid as dinner plates. The deep ocean is vastly unexplored. We know very little about the very deep parts.

STEED
02-12-07, 05:40 PM
Glad this sucker died out 10,000 years ago the Carcharadon megalodon.

http://img499.imageshack.us/img499/9006/megalodon34fv.jpg

Smaragdadler
02-13-07, 01:22 AM
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Some article about dinopaleosquiddys:
http://www.tonmo.com/science/fossils/cretaceousGS.php

ASWnut101
02-13-07, 04:26 PM
I wan't one as a pet.:arrgh!:

SUBMAN1
02-13-07, 05:22 PM
Very cool...too bad these scientists couldn't think of a better way to attract them then using a line that may accidently cut off one of thier tentacles...num nutz.Maybe they could just drop small remote cameras mounted on bases etc like old water mines with bait on em and just have it record as things swim by em...who knows...poor squiddy. :lurk:

Its no big deal for them to loose an arm - it grows back on Squids

Oberon
02-22-07, 01:01 PM
Just bumping this up to add this to the thread....

'NZ fisherman land Colossal squid' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6385071.stm)

:o :o :o :o :o :o

STEED
02-22-07, 01:26 PM
Just bumping this up to add this to the thread....

'NZ fisherman land Colossal squid' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6385071.stm)

:o :o :o :o :o :o

Bloody hell :o the size of that one :huh:

Polak
02-22-07, 02:01 PM
I want to be a fisherman in pre-historical times, what a rush to catch a fish like that... :yep:

bookworm_020
02-22-07, 04:43 PM
I guess the price of seafood has droped in New Zealand!!:up:

flintlock
02-22-07, 07:02 PM
That's a lot of calamari! :o

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/idachs/subsim/cal.jpg

Tchocky
02-22-07, 08:36 PM
That's a lot of calamari! :o

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t287/idachs/subsim/cal.jpg

A musuem had a specimen in London on display, and while preserving it they asked a seafood chef for his opinion. Apparently those squid are so chock-full of ammonia, you might as well be drinking piss :P

No luck there then

flintlock
02-22-07, 09:20 PM
It's fine by me. Although I enjoy seafood, I'm not particularily a fan of calamari.

TarJak
02-22-07, 09:38 PM
Who wants tractor tire sized calamari rings?:doh:

http://media.fairfax.com.au/?sy=smh&category=Breaking%20News&rid=25953

bookworm_020
02-23-07, 12:44 AM
If you over cooked use could use it for a new set of tires on your tractor:D

TarJak
02-23-07, 02:32 AM
Or a reeeeaaalllyyy biiiiiggg sling shot!:rotfl: