Is SHIII boring you.

[ridgewayranger]

As a fan of many years of SH1 and later SH2 I eagerly looked forward to the latest version. Installed XP, ATI Pro 9800 card, more memory and then paid my $50 for the download. Apparently the number of times I can do this is severely limited and I don't even have a disk I can resell.
The game I find to be boring and unstable. Wonderful graphics, even voice control, but I don't want to spend hours looking at trees and buildings as I drive my boat to get to a patrol area where nothing is likely to happen anyway. Start the missions in the patrol areas
I know it is realistic, I was a diesel boat submariner for years, but I can be bored in life without paying for it. What I would like from my game is some interest, even excitement. If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure. I still play SH1 thanks to the instructions on how to run it on XP. :arrgh!:

[joea]

You do know you can change time accleration to speed up getting out of ports right?

[Ultraboy]

I've sunk ten times as much during the transit to-and-from my patrol area than I've actually sunk in the patrol area. I just make sure my route goes along the same path as one of the shipping routes on the map. (Which you may not have...) I agree in part that the game can be boring, particularily early in the war. But later on when you have to fight to sink anything without getting raped by escorts, it get's exciting.

Also, I don't know what realism level you play on, but if you're bored, the closer to 100%, the better in my opinion. New challenges are good if you're looking for more to do. And again, nothing is like the first time you go through a heavy depth-charging with no external view and nothing to look at but your exploding gauges through the darkness. :D

Anyway, I don't know how you have the game set up now, so these are just a couple pieces of general advice, hopefully helpful.

[The Avon Lady]

Boring? No way!

But maybe that's because I never spent earlier times playing SH1 and SH2 as well. Maybe you're maxed out? Nothing to be ashamed of.

And I've joined the Wolves @ War team and enjoying the atmosphere even more.

[kholemann]

Yea... I am thinking about going back in time in the game to my VIIB and trading it in for a VIIC just to have the extra FLAK guns since even though I do really like the IXC, you have to go at the slowest speed to get the best economy and it takes too long for me to sit at my PC and just watch a blip crawl slower than a snail across the Atlantic.

Indeed, this is a simulator but on the other hand it should also be able to be an enjoyable, non-painful experinence. I do like the levels of detail but I disagree that the 'Captain' has to do every last thing on the boat (otherwise, it is pointless to have other officers). I don't feel that my points should be penalized just because I don't want to do realistic targetting for example. I have a weapons officer that can do that (like Dealy did with O'Kane).

Oh well...

I have saved my SH3 folder so I can go back to the IXC but I think I am going to go back to my VIIB and trade it in for a VIIC and see which way would be better.

[jasonb885]

Of late, yes, I have grown bored. My system is too slow to responsively move my boat along at 2048x TC to my patrol grid. There's nothing between the grid and myself, as I use IC with greatly reduced single ship traffic.

I sail an VIIB or C, so my patrol grids are close. It still takes at least 20 minutes, real time, to get on station. In mid and late war that will only increase as you frequently must move submerged during the day to avoid death by aircraft. (Rightly so.)

Meanwhile, the crew ranking system seems broken. Few of the skills are really of any value, and with Real U-Boat they diminish in value even further. The only useful skills are helm, which you already have plenty of, radioman, watchman, mechanic, and repair.

Torpedoman is useless, since you can't reload in battle at high realism and therefore it doesn't matter if it takes 15 minutes or 35 minutes to reload. Medic is useless since the damage model is broken, so usually you're just dead.

Deck gun is useless, since RuB has realistic reload times within the confines of the SH3 engine.

Anti-air is useless, since planes in RuB will own you to death.

The reward system is broken, so once you get a certain quantity of renown you always get certain medals. Rather disinteresting.

You could skip the whole crew system in SH3 and it wouldn't effect playability that much, since it's broken anyway as far as I can tell.

That coupled with it taking me two to eight hours to complete a patrol, and the save game bugs forcing you to never reload when possible, results in my playing for up to eight hours straight.

Sure, I could spend a lot of money on a faster system to run at 2048X TC more effectively, but that's just silly. The game ought to handle time compression sanely in the first place.

I'm just too busy to make time to play anymore. I don't feel like the reward is worth the expenditure of time.

I still intend to keep ImprovedConvoys updated and improved as playability issues are brought to my attention, though.

[ShipperS7]

I'm not bored. I like the campaign. Nothing usually happens in patrol area, but i have intercepted dozens of convoys on the way. :ping:

[terrapin]

Bored? What's this?

[The Avon Lady]

Bored? What's this?
A hull puncture. :know:

[jason210]

Meanwhile, the crew ranking system seems broken. Few of the skills are really of any value, and with Real U-Boat they diminish in value even further. The only useful skills are helm, which you already have plenty of, radioman, watchman, mechanic, and repair.

That's quite a lot anyway, but both gunners do reduce loadtime and increase accuracy, and are also more responsive. Medics cure the injured who would otherwise die; Sonarmen make the sonar more sensitive; Torpedomen reduce load times.


Torpedoman is useless, since you can't reload in battle at high realism and therefore it doesn't matter if it takes 15 minutes or 35 minutes to reload. Medic is useless since the damage model is broken, so usually you're just dead..

Never had this problem. Perphaps you're using a mod?


Deck gun is useless, since RuB has realistic reload times within the confines of the SH3 engine.

Anti-air is useless, since planes in RuB will own you to death.


Then don't use RuB! That's the whole point of it. You can't fairly criticise a game after you've installed a mod that is designed to do just what you're complaining of.

I think it's natural to get fed up with a game after a while, however good it is. It needs new stuff to come out to keep the interest up. That's why games like Operation Flashpoint and MS Flight Simulator last so long - always new stuff being brought out.

What I'd like to see is an official expansion pack that fixes the final bugs, and changes the code here and there to give new functionality. Or at least release an SDK before interest fades!

[Catfish]

Avon lady wrote:
Bored, what's this ? "A hull puncture"
Drilling can be boring sometimes.
:88)
Greetings,
Catfish

[Stealth Elephant]

I haven't played Silent Hunter III in weeks.

Now that I've recently recovered from an injury to my hands and wrists, I'm free to play my widdle games again, and I've been devoting so much of my time to replaying the classics that I don't even consider Silent Hunter III anymore!

Well, once my hyper-gaming-as-a-result-of-forced-abstinence has abated, I might return to my U-boat and its lonely crew. It's just too slow and methodical a game for me to jump right back into.

[Seminole]

Bored with SHIII????... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: ...that's a good one.

[SmokinTep]

Not really. I read a book during the dull times at sea.............

[SteamWake]

I just dont get these kind of threads.

Okay so it bores you. Why bore us ?

Go get yourself a copy of The Sims and have a nice day.

[terrapin]

I just dont get these kind of threads.

Okay so it bores you. Why bore us ?

Go get yourself a copy of The Sims and have a nice day.

He's bored and has too much time on his hands... ;)

[Duncan Idaho]

Then don't use RuB! That's the whole point of it. You can't fairly criticise a game after you've installed a mod that is designed to do just what you're complaining of.

lofl

Hard to believe someone would complain about those things and then point out they're using RuB. A bit like telling your doctor 'Well it hurts when I bend over backwards.' He's gonna tell you 'Well don't bend over backwards then.'

[SmokinTep]

:lol:

[jason210]

I think people generally get fed up with things after a while, however good those things are. Things need to be re-invented, added-on to so that new stuff is there all the time.

But I must say that SHIII has kept me interested longer than most games I've bought, with the exception of OFP and MSFS. Games like Mafia and Half Life II are over less than a week.

I wish they'd bring out a really cool add-on, perhaps that gives you more control over U-boats, with better interiors, more rooms and more equipment to play with.

[Beery]

If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure.

Erm, joining the Navy can never give anyone 'realism'. The Navy is real, not realistic. There's a huge difference between reality and realism.

[joea]

If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure.

Erm, joining the Navy can never give anyone 'realism'. The Navy is real, not realistic. There's a huge difference between reality and realism.

Why keep restating the obvious Beery?? Some folks are never going to get it. :damn:

[Beery]

If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure.

Erm, joining the Navy can never give anyone 'realism'. The Navy is real, not realistic. There's a huge difference between reality and realism.

Why keep restating the obvious Beery?? Some folks are never going to get it. :damn:

LOL. I just wish that people would crack open a dictionary every once in a while when they get the urge to use a word whose meaning they don't understand. I think it would save everyone time and energy.

[Carcassonne]

Hmm, bored with the game, well, I will say that I have definitely hit a lull in my excitement and desire to play. I will add that's my lull is due to how many hours I've already spent on the game.

Personally, I've turned towards some literature to help me get my spark back. So far, it's definitely kept my interest but still I'm in my lull.

I do have one thing going for me. I played my first career at 51% and therefore I could jack those realism settings up to create, in essence, a "new game".

[Duncan Idaho]

I've totally lost over a month of time to this game so far. Bored? Not hardly! I'm still hot to actually survive to the end of a war!

[jasonb885]

Meanwhile, the crew ranking system seems broken. Few of the skills are really of any value, and with Real U-Boat they diminish in value even further. The only useful skills are helm, which you already have plenty of, radioman, watchman, mechanic, and repair.

That's quite a lot anyway, but both gunners do reduce loadtime and increase accuracy, and are also more responsive. Medics cure the injured who would otherwise die; Sonarmen make the sonar more sensitive; Torpedomen reduce load times.


I am aware of what they're for.



Torpedoman is useless, since you can't reload in battle at high realism and therefore it doesn't matter if it takes 15 minutes or 35 minutes to reload. Medic is useless since the damage model is broken, so usually you're just dead..

Never had this problem. Perphaps you're using a mod?


What problem? The game will allow you to reload anytime you don't have silent running enabled. But doing so while trying to escape the hunt is a bad idea. It makes a lot of noise to reload.



Deck gun is useless, since RuB has realistic reload times within the confines of the SH3 engine.

Anti-air is useless, since planes in RuB will own you to death.


Then don't use RuB! That's the whole point of it. You can't fairly criticise a game after you've installed a mod that is designed to do just what you're complaining of.


No, the game is broken without RuB. I prefer more realism, so that makes both specalities worthless. But they're worthless _anyway_ if you play realistically, with or without RuB. When you see a plane you should dive. With or without RuB that's realistic. Without RuB the penality for engaging is generally not death, though.


I think it's natural to get fed up with a game after a while, however good it is. It needs new stuff to come out to keep the interest up. That's why games like Operation Flashpoint and MS Flight Simulator last so long - always new stuff being brought out.

What I'd like to see is an official expansion pack that fixes the final bugs, and changes the code here and there to give new functionality. Or at least release an SDK before interest fades!

That would be nice.

[jasonb885]

Then don't use RuB! That's the whole point of it. You can't fairly criticise a game after you've installed a mod that is designed to do just what you're complaining of.

lofl

Hard to believe someone would complain about those things and then point out they're using RuB. A bit like telling your doctor 'Well it hurts when I bend over backwards.' He's gonna tell you 'Well don't bend over backwards then.'

Eh?

RuB is the game the way it ought to be modeled.

However, in doing so two more specalities are worthless beyond the already worthless ones.

Point is, the game offers you nearly a dozen different crew specials you have to waste your time assigning and they're essentially of no value anyway. What a rip.

Crew management simply seems incomplete.

It's a shame it's not possible to have a legitimate discussion of the game's shortcomings without the rampant fanboyism of some posters materializing.

[Sailor Steve]

No, I'm not bored by SHIII at all. I sail in and out of port in real time. Of course, Rubini's harbor mod makes that a lot more entertaining. I use fairly high time compression (2048), but I get bumped back to real time constantly because I use Irishred's radiolog mod. I spent the better part of an hour last night stalking a merchant in a storm. My soundman finally lost contact, and I lost him without having ever seen him.

I loved AOD, and I loved SHI, but neither of them comes close to the feel of SHIII. SHII was awful, at least until the great mods came along; but even with them it pales by comparison.

I was in the navy myself, and I still don't find SHIII boring in the least. Go play an FPS.

[DedEye]

I'm on vacation now and just spent that last 2 days totally o/d'ing on SH3.

Best moment this weekend: I installed the harbour traffic mod. First mission there were lots of luftwaffe planes, so I was expecting the same on my second mission. Wrong. We came under air attack and it seemed as if the entire harbour opened up on those planes. Very cool! :rock:

There's many things in RuB that I like, but some I don't, and with no easy way to be selective (afaik, please correct me if I'm wrong ;)) I don't use it. I like the stock fatigue model but have tweaked it a bit so I don't have to babysit my crew at all times. For me it does a good (enough) job of abstractly simulating green vs veteran vs elite crews. Could it be better? For sure. I would have also liked to have seen other things, for eg a small clip of a wreath being thrown in the water if your boat is lost, along with maybe a newspaper headline ala the Aces games/SH1. But this doesn't spoil the game for me.

Also, thank you very much Jason for the IC and sensor pack. They rock too :rock:

I've added other mods too to get the game to where I like it. I just d/l'd the SH3 Commander; looks cool and intriguing, and will be checking that out :) So, not bored with it yet; especially with some of the great stuff out there from the community :up:

[Stymnus]

And not just in my VIIB.. :)

I tend to really attach myself to a game, play it intensely (as well as one can with a job and a kid and such), often getting into the subject enough to get books and rent movies about the subject. It's happened for Motor City: Online (I was a beta tester), Star Wars: Galaxies, B17: The Mighty Eighth, America's Army: Online (where I was a beta tester and forum moderator). SimGolf. MVP2004 (baseball). Madden 2004. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and San Andreas...

This game is lasting me a while so far, the mods do help keep things alive. At least the interest...several of my uBoats litter the Atlantic floor at the moment :(

Sad as it sounds, this game too will have its day. I never thought I'd stop playing some of these games.

I *will* say this is the first subsim that I ever 'got', that I understand tactics a heck of a lot better than I ever did with most other sub sims I've ever tried. Closest before that was Aces of the Deep. About which I must say, I liked sailing into port and seeing the flags for merchant and warships on the line between the bow and conning tower. Why can't this be done? :)

[Sailor Steve]

...and with no easy way to be selective (afaik, please correct me if I'm wrong ;)) I don't use it.
RUB comes with a very fine readme, which describes every single change. I picked and chose freely which files I would use, with few problems.

Also there is the "Un-RUB mod". I'm sure you could use individual files from that one to put back the original parts you like.

[Kaptain Lord Aaron]

As a fan of many years of SH1 and later SH2 I eagerly looked forward to the latest version. Installed XP, ATI Pro 9800 card, more memory and then paid my $50 for the download. Apparently the number of times I can do this is severely limited and I don't even have a disk I can resell.
The game I find to be boring and unstable. Wonderful graphics, even voice control, but I don't want to spend hours looking at trees and buildings as I drive my boat to get to a patrol area where nothing is likely to happen anyway. Start the missions in the patrol areas
I know it is realistic, I was a diesel boat submariner for years, but I can be bored in life without paying for it. What I would like from my game is some interest, even excitement. If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure. I still play SH1 thanks to the instructions on how to run it on XP. :arrgh!:yes, I agree sh3 is a great game but its has too much graphics and not enough good solid stratgey. I play sh1/2 more. I feel that too much time is spent on the water graphics and other things. In a real stiuation most of the time is spent at stations. NOT Looking at the sights. SH2 and SH1 were all about manning stations and doing what your supposed to do command a platformt. I love sh 3 though just feel that graphics arent everything there cracked up to be. (but I stil play CAOD so I guess im old-fashoned) No offience to sh3 though I stll bring it out sometimes.

[Kaptain Lord Aaron]

As a fan of many years of SH1 and later SH2 I eagerly looked forward to the latest version. Installed XP, ATI Pro 9800 card, more memory and then paid my $50 for the download. Apparently the number of times I can do this is severely limited and I don't even have a disk I can resell.
The game I find to be boring and unstable. Wonderful graphics, even voice control, but I don't want to spend hours looking at trees and buildings as I drive my boat to get to a patrol area where nothing is likely to happen anyway. Start the missions in the patrol areas
I know it is realistic, I was a diesel boat submariner for years, but I can be bored in life without paying for it. What I would like from my game is some interest, even excitement. If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure. I still play SH1 thanks to the instructions on how to run it on XP. :arrgh!:yes, I agree sh3 is a great game but its has too much graphics and not enough good solid stratgey. I play sh1/2 more. I feel that too much time is spent on the water graphics and other things. In a real stiuation most of the time is spent at stations. NOT Looking at the sights. SH2 and SH1 were all about manning stations and doing what your supposed to do command a platformt. I love sh 3 though just feel that graphics arent everything there cracked up to be. (but I stil play CAOD so I guess im old-fashoned) No offience to sh3 though I stll bring it out sometimes. ridgewayranger you may want to try Dangrous Waters its a new sim post ww2 but for me it has that bite I got well playing sh2 for the firt time and it lets you command 7 plaforms (e.g sub(nuclear and diesel),plane,helicopter,FFG,

[benetofski]

ummm, yes it can be quite boring when you are in 'career' mode..

I was discussing this very thing just today with a former u-boot officer and he stated that there was certainly a lot of time when on patrols when you had to fill in time just doing maintenance stuff..

Maybe that's why UBISOFT introduced the crew fatigue thingy - it's realism after all!

Best to get your SHIII fix by playing missions only if you can't hack the 'boring bits :lol:

Try 'ENIGMA RISING TIDE' (schnell-boot) if you want a (low-cost yet exciting) 'fill-in' game to get you by the hump!

:up:

[dize]

2048 tc?
how can i mod the time compression?

[DedEye]

I picked and chose freely which files I would use, with few problems.

Thanks Steve. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall you saying how you pointed the installer to a temp directory and went from there. I'll check it out ;)

how can i mod the time compression?

under my docs\sh3\data\cfg\main.cfg under [time compression] change the maximum to 2048 ;)

[CptGrayWolf]

I was discussing this very thing just today with a former u-boot officer and he stated that there was certainly a lot of time when on patrols when you had to fill in time just doing maintenance stuff..

Whaaaat? :huh:
Who is this u-boot officer? What boat did he serve on? Is he palying SH3? Does he find it realistic? Does he enjoy it?
Give us more information!

[dize]

I picked and chose freely which files I would use, with few problems.

Thanks Steve. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall you saying how you pointed the installer to a temp directory and went from there. I'll check it out ;)

how can i mod the time compression?

under my docs\sh3\data\cfg\main.cfg under [time compression] change the maximum to 2048 ;)

eum i did that, and it dosnt work for me. :-?

[joea]

Anypne notice "ridgewayranger" has not answered in the thread he started. :hmm: We've been hooked, gutted and fried guys. :rotfl:

[Sailor Steve]

I picked and chose freely which files I would use, with few problems.

Thanks Steve. Now that you mention it, I seem to recall you saying how you pointed the installer to a temp directory and went from there. I'll check it out ;)

how can i mod the time compression?

under my docs\sh3\data\cfg\main.cfg under [time compression] change the maximum to 2048 ;)

eum i did that, and it dosnt work for me. :-?
You might also have to change it in the main.cfg file in the game folder. I think I changed it there but forgot the My Documents part, but it works for me now. I've got it set to 4096, though I rarely set it that fast.

[ridgewayranger]

Joea questions my lack of reply. I didn't know I had to. I gave an opinion which sparked others which I find very interesting, we all have our opinions.Are we supposed to keep them to ourselves if they disagree with the majority? My point was that I felt ripped off after swallowing all the advance publicity and ballyhoo. As the skipper of the boat I should not have to tell officers where they should be when certain events are taking place. No ship would leave harbour without a watch officer on the bridge, or after surfacing. As senior torpedo rating on board I can assure everyone that torpedoes got reloaded very quickly without the presence of an officer (they usually got in the way)! Every member of the crew knew where he had to be at a given time or event. All this moving of men around the boat is ridiculous. As I told East, i have started leaving the patrol area and looking for trouble, it's usually nearby,but the boredom of getting there still exists. :arrgh!:

[kiwi_2005]

Surely ridgewayranger, was going to know that SHIII is not all about leaving port and finding numerous ships straight away, although is possible. SHIII is not boring what i found boring was SH1 and SH2 even though i play SH2 right up till SH3 came out. The mods for SH2 prolonged the game. Maybe try mods for SH3, such as the RUB mod. While on my 4th patrol in a VIIB my patrol was to reach Grid BF18. i got there then patroled for like 5minutes and my lookout crew spotted a convoy, the destroyers kept to down for 3hrs before i got to let lose some torps. Sunk 2 cargo ships and left the scene cos it got to hot. 20minutes later realtime, i spot another convoy! so do the same this time i managed to get pass the destroyer screen without being detected and had the convoy all to myself so to speak. Sunk 3 ships then left. by this time im heading home i go round the long way back to kiel, i pass Scapa Flow area only to spot ANOTHER CONVOY!!! holy crap this is a good patrol i tell myself, i have two torps left, shall i risk it? bloody hell yeah, i head in and sink one tanker then slip away back to kiel!
On my fourth patrol i manage to engage 3 convoys! i only wish i had unlimited torps! :-) But this game is no where as boring as SH1 and 2, and whether its normal to come across 3 convoys in one patrol or maybe the RUB mod enabled more convoys to show up? Boring? No Way.

[Kaptain Lord Aaron]

Surely ridgewayranger, was going to know that SHIII is not all about leaving port and finding numerous ships straight away, although is possible. SHIII is not boring what i found boring was SH1 and SH2 even though i play SH2 right up till SH3 came out. The mods for SH2 prolonged the game. Maybe try mods for SH3, such as the RUB mod. While on my 4th patrol in a VIIB my patrol was to reach Grid BF18. i got there then patroled for like 5minutes and my lookout crew spotted a convoy, the destroyers kept to down for 3hrs before i got to let lose some torps. Sunk 2 cargo ships and left the scene cos it got to hot. 20minutes later realtime, i spot another convoy! so do the same this time i managed to get pass the destroyer screen without being detected and had the convoy all to myself so to speak. Sunk 3 ships then left. by this time im heading home i go round the long way back to kiel, i pass Scapa Flow area only to spot ANOTHER CONVOY!!! holy crap this is a good patrol i tell myself, i have two torps left, shall i risk it? bloody hell yeah, i head in and sink one tanker then slip away back to kiel!
On my fourth patrol i manage to engage 3 convoys! i only wish i had unlimited torps! :-) But this game is no where as boring as SH1 and 2, and whether its normal to come across 3 convoys in one patrol or maybe the RUB mod enabled more convoys to show up? Boring? No Way. If you did not like Sh1/2 Why did you bother with sh3. Without sh 1 and 2 sh3 would not of came out.

[kiwi_2005]

Because i read the preview the owner of this site wrote, so i went out and brought it. I wasn't going to buy SH3 before then. Does that answer your question? Anyways I did like Aces of the Deep, which IS THE REASON Sh3 is out. Not because of SH1 or 2. :rock:

[kholemann]

No, I'm not bored by SHIII at all. I sail in and out of port in real time. Of course, Rubini's harbor mod makes that a lot more entertaining. I use fairly high time compression (2048), but I get bumped back to real time constantly because I use Irishred's radiolog mod. I spent the better part of an hour last night stalking a merchant in a storm. My soundman finally lost contact, and I lost him without having ever seen him.

I loved AOD, and I loved SHI, but neither of them comes close to the feel of SHIII. SHII was awful, at least until the great mods came along; but even with them it pales by comparison.

I was in the navy myself, and I still don't find SHIII boring in the least. Go play an FPS.

Maybe I am not paying attention to my game but I can only go at 1024X speed when doing time compression....

[Gizzmoe]

Maybe I am not paying attention to my game but I can only go at 1024X speed when doing time compression....

1024x is the default maximum. Download this:
http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches/WolfiesTweekPak.rar

Start tweeksh3.exe and change "Maximum".

[MENTAT]

I have to admit that it is boring sometimes. Especially travelling far distances in the middle of the atlantic nothing to do, nobody around. It bores me occasionaly..

What i see is, SH3 is missing "Minigames" or "Mini scenarios" shall i say, Even Starwars-Kotor had minigames just for "differentiation" it adds flavor, it adds excitement and variety.

More crew struggle, rescue pilot missions, Spy/agent transportation thru English coasts.. Instant/Opportunity missions will surely add flavor to the game.

Please read Subserpents ideas about it here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=92080&highlight=minigames

[Sailor Steve]

Interesting that you dredged up a thread that is almost a year old, but I'll bite. After more than a year I still don't find SHIII boring; but that's probably because I was never looking for a fun game. I like ships, pure and simple, and I play because it makes me feel like I'm back on a ship again, so the sights and sounds are much more to me than just eye-and-ear candy. I wouldn't mind some special missions, but they really should be very few and very far between.

Me bored? Never.

[CCIP]

Yep, no boredom. There is one catch, though, I'm finding it hard to play SHIII outside of WaW. But boring? Nope. I can still see myself playing this several years later. I mean hey, I'm still playing Falcon 4.0 almost 8 years since it was released, and SHIII is probably better-suited for my playing preferences (if only it was as polished by modding as F4 ended up... but we still have time!)

[q65]

I haven't gotten out of 1939 yet and I'm still playing the game and have been at it for 6 months or so. I keep installing the new mods and I always restart. I have come to the conclusion that I need to get out of 1939 so I will be using the NYGM as it runs smoother on my puter. I just found my Sub Command CD's so I will be playing both soon. Have to find time to enjoy the sun.

[Khayman]

I play because it makes me feel like I'm back on a ship again, so the sights and sounds are much more to me than just eye-and-ear candy. I wouldn't mind some special missions, but they really should be very few and very far between.

Me bored? Never.

I agree. I know it's not the sea but my sisters boyfriends dad has a cool wooden boat on Loch Lomond, not one of the plastic noddy boats. First time I spent three days on it, second it was just over a week. I loved the sound of the hammering diesels, the water against the hull. and even the 9 knots max speed it had was damn cool. I relive it playing SH3. Many a time I stand on the bridge or have the external camera following my sub and think "wow" and remember Loch Lomond.

On a more practical note, the game seems always to surprise me. Just as I think I've seen it all it throws something new at me.

[Sailor Steve]

I keep installing the new mods and I always restart.
That's my problem too. I'm waiting for the new Grey Wolves and Commander 2.6 before I start over. Until then I'm testing NYGM 2.0 through a variety of single missions.

[STEED]

SH3 Boring who said that? What a crime to say that!

SH3 is fantastic, brilliant I can't get enough of it, it rocks. :rock: :rock:

[U-Bones]

I have to admit that it is boring sometimes. Especially travelling far distances in the middle of the atlantic nothing to do, nobody around. It bores me occasionaly..

What i see is, SH3 is missing "Minigames" or "Mini scenarios" shall i say, Even Starwars-Kotor had minigames just for "differentiation" it adds flavor, it adds excitement and variety.

More crew struggle, rescue pilot missions, Spy/agent transportation thru English coasts.. Instant/Opportunity missions will surely add flavor to the game.

Please read Subserpents ideas about it here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=92080&highlight=minigames

This idea just blows me away, as in I totally do not connect with it. If the game can't hold your interest on its own merits, its over. At least for me it would be. I would find it more practical to Alt-tab and play solitaire, or see if the wife wants to play spin-the-bottle.

To the original poster, there is a real world out there too, maybe its time to take a break and check it out ? No shame in that at all, fair winds to you.

[HunterICX]

:up: Just when the game start to be boring in an patrol.....and I,m about to press ESC and quit....my lovely Sonar guy Yells at me there is an ship nearby :D
I,m on an patrol now till south america and there is a lot of tankers.
I,m on 3/4 way to my grid and already sunk
2 T2 tankers
1 T3 tanker
1 Liberty Cargo

and that just keeps me up playing...and also the heavy weather Ow I love to be on the bridge and see my Sub bouncing on the waves. and also It hides me from beeing detected to quikly

So does SH3 starts to bore me?
Harrrrrrrrrr No! :arrgh!:

[MENTAT]

So you say that SH4 should also be the same? SHouldnt they add extra features to SH4? Then what would you like them to do in SH4?

[HunterICX]

So you say that SH4 should also be the same? SHouldnt they add extra features to SH4? Then what would you like them to do in SH4?

I dont care if its the same or if they add new feats...I'll buy it anyway :up:
Ubisoft creates one of the best and most handy gameplay I ever have seen in an complicated game like this.

[Kurushio]

mini-games? I hate blimming mini-games. Let's face it, they are and appeal to kiddies only! I don't want to see 'em in SH4. Or maybe....the only mini-game I wouldn't mind seeing is Russian Roulette. They could put a Luger in the game and you could challenge any crew man you don't like. :up:

[HunterICX]

or a minigame : ''Find the Crewmember that took a Dump on the captains bed!'' and launch him via the torpedo tube!

[kiwi_2005]

Far out, talk about freaking out, i just read a post i wrote up here dated a year ago, and now im going did i right that rubbish! Sheesh what was i thinking!!! :rotfl:

[JScones]

I don't think any game I've ever played has kept my interest as long as SH3 has. A few games may have come close (Panzer Elite :rock:), but nothing has surpassed it.

Mind you though, were it not for the subsequent mods, I think my interest would have waned quite a while ago, like it did with SH2, which lasted a whole two (highly repetitive) patrols...

[Mooncatt]

i love sh3 if only it wont work consistently instead of crashing to desktop after 2 hrs of hard work, anyway i could never get bored of it it :rock:
i would like to see fake debris added to the game that would be cool and also different types of ships i always seem to come accross the same type of ship very very rarely see any batteships just destroyers usually i wanna sink some monster ships lol

[Seminole]

No, it is not.

[Mooncatt]

"no its not" wot?:huh:

[HunterICX]

i love sh3 if only it wont work consistently instead of crashing to desktop after 2 hrs of hard work, anyway i could never get bored of it it :rock:
i would like to see fake debris added to the game that would be cool and also different types of ships i always seem to come accross the same type of ship very very rarely see any batteships just destroyers usually i wanna sink some monster ships lol

Be lucky if you recieve an Radio contact about an Task Force.
big battleships are an high risk to encounter there....

[Mooncatt]

dont think ive ever run into a task force just large conyoys

[Grey Legion]

Don't think I could get bored of SH3, but I have a hrad time finding the time to play.

It usually take me a week of "real" time to get to my patrol grid, I play about 3-4 times a week if possible.

Damn Job !!

:damn:

[Mooncatt]

a week of "real" time!!!!!!woooot??? u not using the increase time scale gizmo then???

[tbarak]

Like some others I would rate SH3's replay value to be pretty high. I mean you've got the campaigns which last a long time plus you can vary it somewhat by the choice of boats/equipment you buy. Also changing the realism does give you a chance to try new skills and game play with a slightly different flavour. But without the mods, like others have said, there is just so many times one can get a kick out of seeing a merchant explode and sink. But as a casual player I still get a kick out of the game.

My biggest beef was with how little could be done in the editor. I mean making maps is fun I suppose but altering assets and importing models is difficult and selecting hex as a primary way to edit assets was a really poor choice. This I think prevented a lot of people -myself included - from delving into modding the game. I probed around the files and quickly ascertained the game was only moddable to a point. Therefore I never got this value added feature from the game. I was cheezed about that actually.

The talk about SH4 got me thinking though. I mean, I'm sure the developers have all kinds of wonderful plans to make the game the greatest in the world. But like most games I'm sure time will run out, pressure will be put on by the distributor, and once again we'll get a title that is incomplete. Frankly this is starting to piss me off. Fine, we've got modders willing to add onto the game, but will this cycle of releasing half baked titles ever cease? Personally I've made it a policy not to purchase a game right when it comes out. I'll wait until the feedback starts to appear on the forums and I'll wait until the games are patched and stable before even considering to buy them. Then I'll make sure the editor tools are there and that they are stable too, and that the game is moddable beyond just placing a few boats and one of five available triggers on a friggin' map. Developers should take a lesson from ID and Doom 3 which is truly moddable.

[Dowly]

Sadly... yes. I´m bored with SHIII. Without WaW, my SHIII would be out of my computer quickly. :down:

[andy_311]

No way on earth,It might have taken second place at the momment but I will,play it again it is my fav game at the mo but am playing Fall &rise at the mo love them ancient games (time wise)

[Mooncatt]

i agree its my fav game too although im not too good at it i keep getting sunk, i try daft stunts like scappa flow and loch thingy in scotland :D but although i keep dying something keeps making me come back to it time an time again

[Mooncatt]

ok then give us some reasons why you find it boring

[Mooncatt]

yeah true it is time consuming but thats part of the fun, if something is taking ages to do i just use the time compression, i have to admit it is one of the best games ive ever played

[Kurushio]

ok then give us some reasons why you find it boring
All the time it takes to do everything, plotting, attacking, etc.

I like IL2 because of the action!:yep:
No offence...but you're called "Brewster Pilot", you have a plane in your sig and an Airlines.net album and you are harping on about IL2? I think it's safe to assume you're more a flight-simmer then a sub-simmer? Duly noted and thanks for the input from your perspective (and the flight-simming community)! ;)

...and no...SH3 is in no way "boring".

p.s. I think that plane in your sig is "boring"...and that's coming from somone who attends Farnborough airshow. ;)

[Mooncatt]

uh oh i hope i havent started something here

[SkvyWvr]

As a fan of many years of SH1 and later SH2 I eagerly looked forward to the latest version. Installed XP, ATI Pro 9800 card, more memory and then paid my $50 for the download. Apparently the number of times I can do this is severely limited and I don't even have a disk I can resell.
The game I find to be boring and unstable. Wonderful graphics, even voice control, but I don't want to spend hours looking at trees and buildings as I drive my boat to get to a patrol area where nothing is likely to happen anyway. Start the missions in the patrol areas
I know it is realistic, I was a diesel boat submariner for years, but I can be bored in life without paying for it. What I would like from my game is some interest, even excitement. If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure. I still play SH1 thanks to the instructions on how to run it on XP. :arrgh!:

Sounds like this has received a full salvo!:lol:

[Kurushio]

I find sad people who are supposedly bored with this game, yet hang around on the forums.

If you're bored with SH3 and you're here...you're a saddo and should get a life. No 2 ways about it. :smug:

[Mooncatt]

I find sad people who are supposedly bored with this game, yet hang around on the forums.

If you're bored with SH3 and you're here...you're a saddo and should get a life. No 2 ways about it. :smug:


:hmm: did you get out the wrong side of bed this morning ??

[Khayman]

[quote=Kurushio]

:hmm: did you get out the wrong side of bed this morning ??

He's right though. Why continue to post on a forum about a game that you're bored with? It's like me getting fed up with coloured pencils yet still posting on we_love_coloured_pencils.com.

[Mooncatt]

[quote=Kurushio]

:hmm: did you get out the wrong side of bed this morning ??

He's right though. Why continue to post on a forum about a game that you're bored with? It's like me getting fed up with coloured pencils yet still posting on we_love_coloured_pencils.com.

lol yeah i know wot ya mean but there is nicer ways to speak to someone you dont know

[tbarak]

Playing the game and forumming are two different things. It's not unusual to find people who don't play the game anymore still participating in the forums. They still like to talk about the game and OMG they may actually like the people in the forums too.

Also you won't find too many rabid fan boys here, who will flame you and otherwise threaten your life since you've insulted their precious game. They'll forgive you for insulting their wives, girlfriends and/or mothers but they won't stand for insults directed at "their" games. The maturity and sensibility that's commonplace around here is one big reason I like to post here. We don't expect everyone to like the game and it doesn't spoil our enjoyment of it one bit. You're still welcome here as are your opinions.

[Khayman]

Because I like the atmosphere and great people here!:rock:

LOL, okay. Moan all you want then :D

[Khayman]

Playing the game and forumming are two different things. It's not unusual to find people who don't play the game anymore still participating in the forums. They still like to talk about the game and OMG they may actually like the people in the forums too.

Also you won't find too many rabid fan boys here, who will flame you and otherwise threaten your life since you've insulted their precious game. They'll forgive you for insulting their wives, girlfriends and/or mothers but they won't stand for insults directed at "their" games. The maturity and sensibility that's commonplace around here is one big reason I like to post here. We don't expect everyone to like the game and it doesn't spoil our enjoyment of it one bit. You're still welcome here as are your opinions.

You're quite right. I apologise :oops:

[MENTAT]

Tbarak is right. He might be looking something else hanging around the forums.

Besides, for me, I also hang around here to increased the taste i get from the game while i play it, sharing experiences of others and learn a lot more. It keeps my interest to SH3 as i learn more and more both gaming and reality.

Lots of reality is spoken here, history and such. I love to read forums not that i bored of SH3 but to learn.

[Mooncatt]

yeah me too i have been playing sh3 for ages but there is loads of stuff i didnt know i.e didnt think i could go slower than 3knts only stop :oops:

[HunterICX]

^LoL, I found that out really quik...on my first patrol I just pressed everything I got...and ofcourse the outcome wasnt always good when I learned how to play:

2x Slammed myself in to the harbour (Set the Plotted course directly to the grid...didnt know I had to draw a whole course on the map.)
1x Slammed myself on the ocean bottom...I thought the AI was smart enough to stop the sub before it would slam the ocean floor)
1x Snapped the U Boat...How did I supose to know there was an Depth limit for each U boat:o .
1x shooting an Starshell when it was dark while I still didnt figured out that it was

[Khayman]

I was heading out of Lorient once and I accidentally pressed the increase time compression instead of decrease. I frantically got back into normal time and I was just about to run aground. I had to put the engines back emergency...still in full view of all the ships and well wishers. :oops:

[Mooncatt]

^LoL, I found that out really quik...on my first patrol I just pressed everything I got...and ofcourse the outcome wasnt always good when I learned how to play:

2x Slammed myself in to the harbour (Set the Plotted course directly to the grid...didnt know I had to draw a whole course on the map.)
1x Slammed myself on the ocean bottom...I thought the AI was smart enough to stop the sub before it would slam the ocean floor)
1x Snapped the U Boat...How did I supose to know there was an Depth limit for each U boat:o .
1x shooting an Starshell when it was dark while I still didnt figured out that it was

lmao :rotfl: i thought i was bad, i take it u didnt read through the manual then!!

[MENTAT]

manual??? You can spend time to manuals??? Who has a luxury like that?

We used to push every key on the keyboard, every icon on the screen for the first time of a brand new game, Anyways its an old habit and seems not been used anymore :) New generation reads manuals, as they aint have enough lecture books already!

[Mooncatt]

the only time i read them is when i cant work out how to do summat other than that i tend not to bother, i tried doing the same for DW but even by reading the manual for that i still cant play the game so i removed it from pc after a whole 3 days lol :oops:

[Kurushio]

Criticism is one thing...but saying you were "...bored with SH3 when it first came out" is just provocative and insulting, I find. I'm not a fan-boy...anywhere close. But have some respect...you know, you don't go to someones house and say "...thanks for dinner...by the way, you overcooked the roast beef and your husband smells". :roll:

[hardcampa]

Personally I find a big similarity with IL-2 and SH3. They are both the best (most authentic) computer games there are for their areas.
Both can be booring if you disregard the know-how tactics and what have you beneath the surface (no pun intended).
So stop being silly about it boys.

No game out of the box is complete IMHO. Try a mod, feel the difference.

[kiwi_2005]

For those that do find it boring, change your gameplay, have one career as really serious with all the realism etc., and the other rigged out for just plain fun, eg uboat speed 50knots surfaced, 20knots submerged, really rough seas everyday or calm seas throughout the entire patrol :D . AI are hardcore nazi's with an eye like an eagle and aim like King Nimrod (Nimrod? Ahh yeah Nimrod, one of the most famous archers back in the babylon days... ok nevermind). Anyways with "timetravellers minitweak" you can do many things to the game i have my IXB doing 40knots surface 20 submerged, yet i have upped the AI radar and Sonar to spot me at 15000metres instead of the normal 2 or 3 thousand - not good if im cruising with time compression up! :D But have you ever seen a IXB dived when hes doing 40knots its like if you blink your miss it, very quick and ya gotta be careful as she dives on a very steep angle! Yet fun to watch and chuckle with evil grin when you know the bomber that has spotted you on the surface hasn't a chance in hell of getting you when your diving with a speed of
40k. :rock:

[SkvyWvr]

For those that do find it boring, change your gameplay, have one career as really serious with all the realism etc., and the other rigged out for just plain fun, eg uboat speed 50knots surfaced, 20knots submerged, really rough seas everyday or calm seas throughout the entire patrol :D . AI are hardcore nazi's with an eye like an eagle and aim like King Nimrod (Nimrod? Ahh yeah Nimrod, one of the most famous archers back in the babylon days... ok nevermind). Anyways with "timetravellers minitweak" you can do many things to the game i have my IXB doing 40knots surface 20 submerged, yet i have upped the AI radar and Sonar to spot me at 15000metres instead of the normal 2 or 3 thousand - not good if im cruising with time compression up! :D But have you ever seen a IXB dived when hes doing 40knots its like if you blink your miss it, very quick and ya gotta be careful as she dives on a very steep angle! Yet fun to watch and chuckle with evil grin when you know the bomber that has spotted you on the surface hasn't a chance in hell of getting you when your diving with a speed of
40k. :rock:

Finally, a voice of reason:yep:

[rascal101]

SH3 Great game, great mods, great graphics etc!!!

It seems most of the gripes about the game are from folks who are critical of the speed factor, i.e. the time it takes to get anywhere or do anything. Maybe these guys should not be playing a sub game but should be into first person shooters or flight sims. Subs dont travel very fast and the whole undersea war is about stealth, deduction and tactics, with a few big bangs from time to time.

SH3 is a great game, one of the finest availble, I'm not sure of many other games with such a dedicated and creative band of modders and players still hard at it well over a year after its release. Go the modders!!

Having said that I wonder at all the fuss re the Pacific version or SH4. I really am curious as to why any one would bother with a sub sim in this theatre. A suface ship sim for this theatre of the war, based on the kind of graphics quality of SH3 would be fantaqstic, but a sub sim, why bother?

OK some people might get a thrill shooting up some Japanese or Chinese junks, or taking pot shots at the Yamamoto once in a while. The simple fact is that for the latter part of the war most of the sub action in the Pacific was picking up downed airmen and infiltrating coast watchers behind enemy lines.

I'm simply not convineced the SH4 will have much of the holding power of SH3. This is not a rant against the US Navy or the skills of its submariners, they did score some successes and there is some history there. It's what the US Navy and its Allies did with their surface forces that actually count for something, their subs were really a side show unlike the Atlantic where the UBoat war had such devastating potential.

Hope I didnt offend any one, probably did, oh well.............

[Sailor Steve]

Consider this; two years ago when we were still waiting for SHIII and playing SHII, someonestarted a thread titled "Why SHI Is Still King". There are still a lot of people playing that 10-year-old sim, and a dedicated group of gamers who still play Pacific Thunder, which is a WAW-type online campaign using SHI.

There are a huge number of Americans who grew up watching movies like Run Silent, Run Deep and still love to recreate that feeling, plus quite a few others who just want the variety.

Bet it sells as well or better than SHIII.:up:

[kiwi_2005]

Rascal101 wrote:
I'm simply not convineced the SH4 will have much of the holding power of SH3. This is not a rant against the US Navy or the skills of its submariners, they did score some successes and there is some history there. It's what the US Navy and its Allies did with their surface forces that actually count for something, their subs were really a side show unlike the Atlantic where the UBoat war had such devastating potential.

Have you ever play Silent Hunter 1 or the Pacific Aces mod for Silent Hunter 2. If you have you would be drooling like the rest of us patiently waiting for SH4 as taking command of a US sub totally :rock: Although in my opinon the german uboats were the true seawolves, the american submariners had it much easier in the pacific going up against an enemy that really wasn't good at sinking subs compared to the british in the atlantic. But i can't actually recall im sure it was from the interview of a US sub commander in the Silent Hunter 1 game - he was asked did he ever come across german uboats when on patrol, he noted if we ever spotted a uboat we would try to avoid them. Dont know what this actually means but i see it as they didn't want to get in a conflict with a Uboat.:hmm:

[joea]

I'm simply not convineced the SH4 will have much of the holding power of SH3. This is not a rant against the US Navy or the skills of its submariners, they did score some successes and there is some history there. It's what the US Navy and its Allies did with their surface forces that actually count for something, their subs were really a side show unlike the Atlantic where the UBoat war had such devastating potential.

Hope I didnt offend any one, probably did, oh well.............

You need to read some history, Japan's merchant marine was devasted by the US subs, once the torpedoes were fixed, thus neutralising a major reason why Japan went to war. To get the resources of S.E.Asia.

[Kurushio]

Well, two weeks after it came out then. Happy?:shifty:

I'm just more of an "action" man.

ooooh, I guessed you were an "action" man by the plane in your sig. What is it? A twin prop dung transporter? :lol:

[Kurushio]

Consider this; two years ago when we were still waiting for SHIII and playing SHII, someonestarted a thread titled "Why SHI Is Still King". There are still a lot of people playing that 10-year-old sim, and a dedicated group of gamers who still play Pacific Thunder, which is a WAW-type online campaign using SHI.

There are a huge number of Americans who grew up watching movies like Run Silent, Run Deep and still love to recreate that feeling, plus quite a few others who just want the variety.

Bet it sells as well or better than SHIII.:up:
I for one can't wait for SH4 and it's one of the few games I'll pay full price for...

....by the way, doesn't anyone else think IL2 is boring? I find those old junk planes are pretty slow compared to an F-16. That's why I play F4.0 AF...I'm an "action" man. :cool:

[Kurushio]

....by the way, doesn't anyone else think IL2 is boring? I find those old junk planes are pretty slow compared to an F-16. That's why I play F4.0 AF...I'm an "action" man. :cool:
I strongly have to disagree.

With modern fighters you just zoom away with unbelievable speeds, releasing missiles and such from up to 50km! There's nothing like a real WWII dogfight, with about 20 planes and very high action. You have to get to <0.30km to actually make any damage!:arrgh!:

yeah, I know...was just baiting you. :lol: Used to play Aces High. I used to be an avid flight simmer as well. :rock:

[Sailor Steve]

....by the way, doesn't anyone else think IL2 is boring? I find those old junk planes are pretty slow compared to an F-16. That's why I play F4.0 AF...I'm an "action" man. :cool:
I still play Red Baron. 'Death from above' at 90 miles per hour! Now THERE was action!

[Mooncatt]

just going back to IL2 how much of a complicated game is it? i might buy it providing someone can give me their honest opinion plz:up:

[Kurushio]

just going back to IL2 how much of a complicated game is it? i might buy it providing someone can give me their honest opinion plz:up:

It's very good. I wouldn't hesitate...especially now with the low price.

[Mooncatt]

but is it really complicated

[Bum]

As a fan of many years of SH1 and later SH2 I eagerly looked forward to the latest version. Installed XP, ATI Pro 9800 card, more memory and then paid my $50 for the download. Apparently the number of times I can do this is severely limited and I don't even have a disk I can resell.
The game I find to be boring and unstable. Wonderful graphics, even voice control, but I don't want to spend hours looking at trees and buildings as I drive my boat to get to a patrol area where nothing is likely to happen anyway. Start the missions in the patrol areas
I know it is realistic, I was a diesel boat submariner for years, but I can be bored in life without paying for it. What I would like from my game is some interest, even excitement. If you want hard cold realism join the Navy and let me have my vicarious pleasure. I still play SH1 thanks to the instructions on how to run it on XP. :arrgh!:

:roll:
Try this, not too boring for you
http://www.subsim.com/ssr/warship_gunner2/review_warshipgunner2.php

[kiwi_2005]

Brewster Pilot wrote.

I strongly have to disagree.

With modern fighters you just zoom away with unbelievable speeds, releasing missiles and such from up to 50km! There's nothing like a real WWII dogfight, with about 20 planes and very high action. You have to get to <0.30km to actually make any damage!:arrgh!:

WW2 flight sims just doesn't do it for me I use to be a big fan of IL2 and Microsoft Combat flight sims. Only WW2 one i will still play and just recently re-installed is B-17.Flying the bomber in formation is a site to see, man the guns or take control of the bombing all options are there. Drop ya bombs then turn back and hope your mates can make it back with you. And make sure you dont crash when landing!:damn:

Falcon 4 (which i can't get to run on XP anymore) and Lock on (LOMAC) are my type of flying games, speed 700 or higher while in external view listen to the sound boom, *awesome* attacking a carrier or man the US A-10 Tank Killer and drop destruction on the enemy, fly the fast German Mig-29A or cruise and own the skies with the RUS Su-33:p

[Safe-Keeper]

My biggest gripe is the lack of variety. It's just go here, go there, go here again. Sink things on the way. Encounter warships and planes. It gets incredibly monotone.

With mods you at least have more convoys and task forces as well as radio traffic, but it's still rather dull. Varied objectives that sometimes changed during the mission and were connected to radio traffic would do a lot for the career mode. And historical events such as Pearl Harbou getting bombed, the Battle of Midway, the Invasion of the Phillipines, the Guadalcanal landing, USS Indianapolis sunk, facing the Yamato, and so on.

[MENTAT]

Well, two weeks after it came out then. Happy?:shifty:

I'm just more of an "action" man.

hmm, its not quite a kind answer tough. Whats with the agressive tone anyway?!:down:

[MENTAT]

WW2 flight sims just doesn't do it for me I use to be a big fan of IL2 and Microsoft Combat flight sims. Only WW2 one i will still play and just recently re-installed is B-17.Flying the bomber in formation is a site to see, man the guns or take control of the bombing all options are there. Drop ya bombs then turn back and hope your mates can make it back with you. And make sure you dont crash when landing!:damn:


Ah My B17 days.. I was in mid school back then.. I spent hours, days, weeks and months with that game. That was just my kind of game. Just one more bomb print in the nose of my B17.. I almost learned all the France geography with that game :D

[theluckyone17]

....by the way, doesn't anyone else think IL2 is boring? Try outmaneuvering a Bf109 on your six in one of those beloved (to me, at least) Sturm's, and it might get a bit more interesting. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent trying to get a fighter to overshoot me so I can take him out. I swear it's a precursor to the A-10's tactics :cool:. And boy, does it ever feel good when it works out.

Kinda like sailing for RL days (seems like it, anyhow) in SH3 NYGM2, then successfully sneaking into a good sized convoy and wreaking havoc. Good stuff.:rock:

[Highbury]

Totally pointless discussion. Anything is boring if it does not hold your interest.

What is your favorite sport?

Hockey? Bunch of guys trying to skate past each other and try to put a puck in the net... yay!

Soccer? Bunch of guys trying to run past each other and try to put a ball in the net... yay!

Basketball? Bunch of guys trying to run past each other and try to put a ball in the hoop... yay!

Like modern flight sims?

Fly from A to B to C then home, shoot down (without seeing) any planes your radar tells you are there... yay!


As you can see anything you don't like can be trivlized.

Disclaimer: I love soccer, LOVE hockey, despise basketball and don't get modern flight sims at all.

[Rosencrantz]

Am I bored? Have to say no, I'm not bored to play SHIII.
People are different. Someone is bored because of transits, even if one is using TC2048. I never, ever use more than TC256 and I use to play just 2 - 3 gamedays per evening. Sometimes even less if there is some action without TC. Three months patrol with IX takes me sometimes 5 - 6 weeks in real life. But I'm not complaining.

-RC-

[The_Pharoah]

ahh yes this is a good thread for me to add to. I've just come back from months off - I mean, I even uninstalled SHIII about 6 months ago coz I couldn't be bothered playing it...:o yes I know..but with BF2, IL2, FS2004, and more importantly wife+2 kids (1 born in April), there really isn't time for much.

HOWEVER, I realised that I'm ageing (I'm turning 30 next week :oops:) and I can't do the BF2 bunny-hopping, bragging, etc etc crap or even play against guys who do - and have gotten back into SHIII. Man, what a rush!! There's nothing quite being a sub captain...making all the decisions. SHIII provides me with an experience that I don't get in any other game atm. And thats why I'm back. Its hard to explain but I'm sure a lot of you will understand.