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etheberge
03-02-10, 11:39 PM
I've been working on putting in the historical emblems for all the type VII boats that were known to have one.

So far I have the VIIA's completed and the first three VIIB's.

Here's a preview...click to enlarge

http://img261.imagevenue.com/loc249/th_90590_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.23.56_122_249lo.jpg (http://img261.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90590_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.23.56_122_ 249lo.jpg)

http://img230.imagevenue.com/loc565/th_90592_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.30.34_122_565lo.jpg (http://img230.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90592_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.30.34_122_ 565lo.jpg)

I know the emblems are reversed on the menu screens however if you don't reverse them there they are then reversed on the boat itself. That seemed to be the lesser of two evils.

I'll probably do two versions, one with only the historical emblems, and one with the default ones and maybe a few others that just look cool.

EDIT: The mod is now available from the new thread ----------->>>>http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164789

Please post further questions or comments there.

CCIP
03-03-10, 12:03 AM
:up:

Great idea. Kind of surprised how few emblems were available in the game, unless of course there's some kind of trick to unlocking these as you progress...

quad5
03-03-10, 12:26 AM
I've been working on putting in the historical emblems for all the type VII boats that were known to have one.

So far I have the VIIA's completed and the first three VIIB's.


http://img261.imagevenue.com/loc249/th_90590_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.23.56_122_249lo.jpg (http://img261.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90590_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.23.56_122_ 249lo.jpg)

http://img230.imagevenue.com/loc565/th_90592_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.30.34_122_565lo.jpg (http://img230.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=90592_SH5Img2010_03_02_23.30.34_122_ 565lo.jpg)


It is an error! :shifty:On the image emblem U-48 type "В", and at you a boat type "А".

conus00
03-03-10, 12:57 AM
Does the game allow you to place emblems only on the front of the CT?

etheberge
03-03-10, 01:43 AM
Does the game allow you to place emblems only on the front of the CT?

As far as I can tell yes. I'm sure it could be modded differently eventually.

It is an error! :shifty:On the image emblem U-48 type "В", and at you a boat type "А".

Yes, the screenshot was just to show a different emblem used than the defaults. You are free to use any emblem you like on any of the boats as you see fit.

rsvette12
03-03-10, 12:10 PM
Hi Guys:

Wondering saw a video of someone changing the emblem to something else, how do I do that, actually I am not seeing any emblem as of yet, do I have to get to a certain point in the game, thanks Guys. :DL

Rich

etheberge
03-03-10, 11:53 PM
While in the u-boat pen click on the engineer dude standing next to your boss dude then say to you need to upgrade your ride. In the menu that pops up select the tab on the top right called "camouflage", you should then have a tab on the left called "emblems".

Greyghost
03-04-10, 07:44 PM
Cool I'm looking forward to this one. Also once you get upgraded to the VIIC the emblems appear on both sides of the conning tower.

rsvette12
03-04-10, 08:21 PM
Thanks bro :)

Rich

Decoman
03-05-10, 06:04 AM
Does anyone have the basics modding info about the preferred pixel resolution and the preferred filetype?

I suppose it is some 24bit rgb + 8 bit alpha?

mr.Kiki
03-05-10, 07:03 PM
Hi, guys! Where must i place my emblems, how they must be named and what format must they be??? sorry for my english :oops:

Capt.Warner
03-05-10, 07:20 PM
I would like to have the laughing sawfish on my sub?How would I go about doing so?Thx:salute:

etheberge
03-05-10, 08:00 PM
Cool I'm looking forward to this one. Also once you get upgraded to the VIIC the emblems appear on both sides of the conning tower.

Good, nice to know. I assume one side of the emblem is still flipped?

Does anyone have the basics modding info about the preferred pixel resolution and the preferred filetype?

I suppose it is some 24bit rgb + 8 bit alpha?

Filetype is 256x256 DDS but as for the other stuff I don't know off the top of my head. Compare with the default ones, they are in Data\Texture\TNormal\tex, look for U-xxx.dds

Hi, guys! Where must i place my emblems, how they must be named and what format must they be??? sorry for my english :oops:

You can't do it from the game menus. If you want to you could overwrite one of the default emblems with yours or add new sections in the UPC files, which is what I'm doing.

I would like to have the laughing sawfish on my sub?How would I go about doing so?Thx:salute:

The emblem for U-96 is already in the game. Select it from the menu where you upgrade your sub in the u-boat pen, Camouflage on top right then Captain's Emblem on the left.

I'm doing the boats in order, so far I'm up to U-74. Some have great quality emblems, some are lower quality. If anyone is great at graphic designs and wants to draw emblems from scratch, let me know.

mr.Kiki
03-05-10, 08:05 PM
Filetype is 256x256 DDS but as for the other stuff I don't know off the top of my head. Compare with the default ones, they are in Data\Texture\TNormal\tex, look for U-xxx.dds

You can't do it from the game menus. If you want to you could overwrite one of the default emblems with yours or add new sections in the UPC files, which is what I'm doing.


Thanks for the help! :up:

Paco
03-07-10, 12:09 PM
You can't do it from the game menus. If you want to you could overwrite one of the default emblems with yours or add new sections in the UPC files, which is what I'm doing.



Hi,

the Emblems.upc is empty. How to use the file? Could You explain the format of the file, please?

Thanks a lot :up:
Paco.

ual002
03-07-10, 01:13 PM
Funny, I'm reading same post thinking same thing. What exactly are you changing in UPC files? BTW the emblems.UPC is in the folder that I think was for SH4. Go up a couple folders and read through UPCdataGE, I see more stuff pertaining to SH5 in there, but no empty emblems.upc

However pull up upgradepacks.upc and scroll to the bottom, that stuff looks important for the emblems.

Remember though Im just guessing. I have no idea what im doing, I was hoping someone else would.

winkelmander
03-07-10, 03:15 PM
sounds good to me realy looking forward to get this stuff!

Greyghost
03-07-10, 04:30 PM
Good, nice to know. I assume one side of the emblem is still flipped?

It puts them the way the are supposed to be facing. Here are a couple screenshots of the laughing sawfish.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n8/bayou_ghost/sh2.jpg

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n8/bayou_ghost/sh1.jpg

etheberge
03-07-10, 04:56 PM
Funny, I'm reading same post thinking same thing. What exactly are you changing in UPC files? BTW the emblems.UPC is in the folder that I think was for SH4. Go up a couple folders and read through UPCdataGE, I see more stuff pertaining to SH5 in there, but no empty emblems.upc

However pull up upgradepacks.upc and scroll to the bottom, that stuff looks important for the emblems.

Remember though Im just guessing. I have no idea what im doing, I was hoping someone else would.

Adding a new emblem to the list in the menu is really easy but you need to edit two upc file manually.

You need to add a new section at the bottom of two files: \Data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\Equipment.upc and \Data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\UpgradePacks.upc.

Go the the bottom of these two files and you'll see the sections for the existing default emblems. A section starts by a section name in brackets for example[Equipment 45] and ends with the blank line before the next section begins. So what you need to do is copy/paste one of the existing entries and modify it a bit:

Lets say your last section for the emblems in Equipment.upc is:


[Equipment 72]
ID=EqpEmblem29
NameDisplayable=
FunctionalType= EqFTypeCoating
EquipmentInterval= NULL, NULL
EquipmentSlotType=NULL
ExternalLinkName3D=data\Textures\TNormal\tex\U-70.dds
Hitpoints= 10000
DamageDescription1= NULL, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, invulnerable, 0, 0, NULL, 0, 1, 1
Copy it, then paste one line below the end.

Then modify the stuff in red in the section you just copied to match your need:

[Equipment 73]-------------->>>+1
ID=EqpEmblem30------------>>>+1
NameDisplayable=
FunctionalType= EqFTypeCoating
EquipmentInterval= NULL, NULL
EquipmentSlotType=NULL
ExternalLinkName3D=data\Textures\TNormal\tex\U-70.dds---->>>name of your emblem file
Hitpoints= 10000
DamageDescription1= NULL, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, invulnerable, 0, 0, NULL, 0, 1, 1
Then do the same thing in \Data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\UpgradePacks.upc

Take the last section for example this:


[UpgradePack 70]
ID= UpackEmblem29
NameDisplayable=U-70
Info=U-70 was a Type VIIC U-boat, commissioned on 23rd Nov 1940.
Notes=U-70 was assigned to the 7th Flotilla and was lost on her first was patrol. She was sunk 7th March 1941 south-east of Iceland, in position 60.15N, 14.00W, by British corvettes HMS Camellia and HMS Arbutus. About half of the crew survived. On this ill-fated patrol, U-70 sank 1 ship for 820 GRT.
FunctionalType= UpFTypeEmblem
UpgradePackSlotType= UboatEmblems
Type=NULL
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1939-09-01, NULL, 0
IDLinkUpgradePackElements= EqpEmblem29
TrackingID=901
Copy it, then paste one line below the end. Then modify the stuff in red in the section you just copied to match your need:


[UpgradePack 71]----------->>>+1
ID= UpackEmblem30--------->>>+1
NameDisplayable=U-70------>>>Name that will appear in the menu
Info=U-70 was a Type VIIC U-boat, commissioned on 23rd Nov 1940.----->You can type any information you like here, it'll be in the menu.
Notes=U-70 was assigned to the 7th Flotilla and was lost on her first was patrol. She was sunk 7th March 1941 south-east of Iceland, in position 60.15N, 14.00W, by British corvettes HMS Camellia and HMS Arbutus. About half of the crew survived. On this ill-fated patrol, U-70 sank 1 ship for 820 GRT.----->>>You can type any information you like here, it'll be in the menu.
FunctionalType= UpFTypeEmblem
UpgradePackSlotType= UboatEmblems
Type=NULL
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=1939-09-01, NULL, 0
IDLinkUpgradePackElements= EqpEmblem30------->>>>+1
TrackingID=901
Don't forget to copy your texture file in the folder with the name you specified in Equipment.UPC.

On another matter, I'm starting to re-think this mod. I originally wanted to include every emblem I could find for all the type VII boats that had one historically. The VIIA's and VIIB's were easy and are done already but it turns out there was a lot more VIIC's made than I realized :).

I'm thinking of only doing the more successful U-boats now and those with the coolest/most famous/nicest looking emblems, and maybe the Flotilla emblems. I haven't decided yet, we'll see.

Paco
03-07-10, 05:36 PM
Hi,

here the changes for one emblem:

add 2 lines at Position Line 799 in SH5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCLocalization\upclocalization .tsr:

EqEmblemYourUniqeName=Name of the emblem
UpackEqEmblemYourUniqe-Info=short description with InfoThese Lines are for the upgrade in subpen.

Ok, for using your own emblem, you have to add your emblem to the equipment-file

SH5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\Equipment.upc:

[Equipment 61]
ID=EqYourUniqeName
NameDisplayable= name
FunctionalType= EqFTypeCoating
EquipmentInterval= NULL, NULL
EquipmentSlotType=NULL
ExternalLinkName3D= data\Textures\TNormal\tex\filename.dds
Hitpoints= 10000
DamageDescription1= NULL, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1, invulnerable, 0, 0, NULL, 0, 1, 1ok, make a link to this entry in the following file:

SH5\data\UPCDataGE\UPCUnitsData\UpgradePacks.upc:

[UpgradePack 59]
ID= UpacYourUniqeName
NameDisplayable=EqEmblemYourUniqeName from upclocalization.tsr
Info=UpackEqEmblemYourUniqe-Info from upclocalization.tsr
Notes= your Notes here
FunctionalType= UpFTypeEmblem
UpgradePackSlotType= UboatEmblems
Type=NULL
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptionCurrent= NULL, NULL, 0
UnitUpgradePackIntervalOptions1=NULL, NULL, 100
IDLinkUpgradePackElements= EqYourUniqeName from Equipment.upc: <-- this is the link!
TrackingID=901
thats all :salute:

Paco

etheberge
03-07-10, 05:42 PM
Thanks Paco, that's pretty neat!

etheberge
03-08-10, 01:43 AM
It puts them the way the are supposed to be facing. Here are a couple screenshots of the laughing sawfish.


Thanks for the screens, I think that means any text present will be mirrored again. Oh well.

ual002
03-08-10, 07:33 PM
You beat me to the "how to" post, I figured it out over the weekend. Also "\data\menu\Skins\German\Gui\Crew" is where the crew photos are. Ive already changed my captain.

Im also working on renazified medals. Just a few minor changes

etheberge
03-08-10, 07:57 PM
You beat me to the "how to" post, I figured it out over the weekend. Also "\data\menu\Skins\German\Gui\Crew" is where the crew photos are. Ive already changed my captain.

Im also working on renazified medals. Just a few minor changes

Cool, looking forward to the medals.

ual002
03-08-10, 11:58 PM
Ok its JSGME ready.

Its all in one;


New Medals
And a new Custom "badly" drawn emblem. (So you have an example.)
Changes capt photo to my personal.
And no crosshair.

http://www.filefront.com/15781155/Custom-Capt-photo-Emblem-no-crosshair-and-awards.rar/

Use what you wish on your game delete what you dont want. Keep in mind I have only had the chance to test Iron Class 2nd class out ingame. Im a crappy Kaptain, I dont even have the Uboat War badge... Shouldn't I get that after like 2, 2 mnth patrols? I'm on like #6 in 1940.

oscar19681
03-09-10, 07:40 AM
Does the game allow you to place emblems only on the front of the CT?

I saw a screenshot in the screenshot thread revealing emblems on the side of the conning tower. I,m not sure if this was modded though.

etheberge
03-10-10, 10:33 PM
Ok its JSGME ready.

Its all in one;


New Medals
And a new Custom "badly" drawn emblem. (So you have an example.)
Changes capt photo to my personal.
And no crosshair.

http://www.filefront.com/15781155/Custom-Capt-photo-Emblem-no-crosshair-and-awards.rar/

Use what you wish on your game delete what you dont want. Keep in mind I have only had the chance to test Iron Class 2nd class out ingame. Im a crappy Kaptain, I dont even have the Uboat War badge... Shouldn't I get that after like 2, 2 mnth patrols? I'm on like #6 in 1940.

Thanks ual002, the medals look very good.

ual002
03-10-10, 11:06 PM
Thank you, thank IL-2 for my Photoshop skilz, BTW I'm no Nazi, but their uniforms were so much cooler
http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/ual002/IL2%20Sturmovik/Avatars/KriegObltWalkout.jpg

Fansadox
03-11-10, 07:57 AM
Awsome !

i have a request for 2 emblems.

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6765/u1195.gif

and the

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1921/u552.gif

ual002
03-11-10, 11:37 AM
I did the conversion, I'm sure you can figure out how to add them. Tell us how you did.

http://www.filefront.com/15802063/U1195-and-U552.rar/

Fansadox
03-11-10, 12:50 PM
I did the conversion, I'm sure you can figure out how to add them. Tell us how you did.

http://www.filefront.com/15802063/U1195-and-U552.rar/

Cheers m8

I got em to work ! :)

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/8302/sh52010031118393545.th.jpg (http://img532.imageshack.us/i/sh52010031118393545.jpg/)

Fansadox
03-11-10, 03:59 PM
etheberge hows the mod going?

ual002
03-11-10, 10:27 PM
Those emblems look nice. ;)

ual002
03-11-10, 10:36 PM
So let me understand, someone, probably Etheberge will be able to clarify....


Emblems are mirrored thats good for some things but with text or numbers not so good right? Can we unmirror all of them or just specific ones? I think i missed the howto on this.

etheberge
03-12-10, 12:38 AM
etheberge hows the mod going?

I have about 40 emblems added so far and selectable from the menu, all with descriptions and a little history of the associated U-boats.

When complete I expect to have about 100 emblems, including Crew emblems, flotilla emblems and some very nice custom emblems gracefully provided by Gunfighter.

The bad news is that I am leaving on vacation for 2 weeks on Monday 15th so I won't be able to work on the mod for a while.

The good news is that I will release the first version as is before leaving so that you all have something to play with until I can finish it. Expect something tomorrow night or Saturday.

So let me understand, someone, probably Etheberge will be able to clarify....


Emblems are mirrored thats good for some things but with text or numbers not so good right? Can we unmirror all of them or just specific ones? I think i missed the howto on this.

Precisely, text or numbers are mirrored. I haven't personally seen it in SHV but I'm almost positive it's like that again. If you have access to a boat in your campaign other than a VIIA that has emblems on both sides, you can choose the default emblem with the Dices (it has text) and see for yourself. I'm sure the text on it will be flipped.

AFAIK, the only solution anyone found is to add an extra flat object on the side of the 3d model of the conning tower and to overlay a second instance of the emblem texture on that flat object. There was a few issues with that solution too I think. Unfortunately that is beyond my capabilities for now. Maybe in the future.

Thankfully not many emblems have text or numbers in them so I can live with it.

Fansadox
03-12-10, 06:56 AM
Cheers man thats good news :)

Sgtmonkeynads
03-12-10, 07:01 AM
Will you make a version that excludes the ones that came with the game. I don't mean to offend anyone that did win that contest but, I don't see the point in haveing them there. Or if you could tell me their names ( file names) so I could delete them myself, Id thank you. I've looked for them,switched one to my custom emblam, but can't find all of them, and can't change the name of the one I did switch.

etheberge
03-12-10, 09:50 PM
Will you make a version that excludes the ones that came with the game.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=191&pictureid=1420

Fansadox
03-13-10, 03:49 PM
Its saterday make us happy please :)

etheberge
03-13-10, 06:05 PM
Its saterday make us happy please :)

Patience young padawan, I'm working on it as we speak :). It'll probably be about 2 hours before I post the first version.

So far it looks like the first version will have all the individual U-boats emblem I intend to include (about 60-65, for VIIA's, VIIB's, VIIC's and VIIC/41's). The second version to come later will have the crew and flotilla emblems and some custom ones from Gunfighter.

Coming very soon...

Fansadox
03-13-10, 08:03 PM
Nice :)

Zoomer96
03-13-10, 08:27 PM
WOW!! Thank You!! That be some really good work!! They look great on my boat. I'm gonna figure this code out yet.:up:

etheberge
03-13-10, 09:16 PM
Nice :)

WOW!! Thank You!! That be some really good work!! They look great on my boat. I'm gonna figure this code out yet.:up:

Haha, I see we have a couple of early bird that saw the mod in the download section before I even finished writing the new thread with the [REL]. :DL

The mod is now available from the new thread ----------->>>>http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=164789

Please post further questions or comments there.