SH4 uboat bugs thread. (Read past the first post before posting replies)

[capthelm]

frame rates are a disaster in this addon. total mess now compared to 1.4

bug with sonar room on uboats i get a blank screen.no instruments?

..thank god this was only $10 to buy.:down:, over all its a half assed addon imo.
no detailed thought on this 1., may have to uninstall this. till they fix it.

[Private-Cowboy]

What about the framerate? I could run vanilla SH4 pretty ok on my laptop but "only" pretty ok. How much has it gone down??? I never tested 1.4 I must add, did that increase the framerate???

[Raptor1]

I don't see any difference in performance, except that the loading times (which are better compared to 1.4, which was better compared to earlier versions) :-?

[capthelm]

will do some more testing ,

not looking good last test i did, i have ordered a wolfdale E8400 cpu anyway.:cool:

se how it stacks against the fastest cpu out there shortly.

[AVGWarhawk]

will do some more testing ,

not looking good last test i did, i have ordered a wolfdale E8400 cpu anyway.:cool:

se how it stacks against the fastest cpu out there shortly.

Ah, what kind of frame rates are you looking for? Are you spending more time and money worried about frame rates getting to 100+ or is you machine cranking 5 FPS all the time. My weak 3200+, 2 gig DDR and 7800 GS gets me 30+ frames. Pretty respectable for 4 year old machine that is run by chipmunks.

[capthelm]

posting up what i find..,i dont bull... on framerate findings.
1.4 was smooth for us..as i say again will test more..

i like my games to be silky smooth for play.:rock:

[Raptor1]

It could be a hardware-specific problem, my humble Pentium D 3.0GHz/Radeon X1600 512mb/1G DDR runs it fine, with only occasional slowdowns at bad weather

[capthelm]

just found out it was old creative drivers i was using, =updated.

i test sh4 with fraps running to make small vids..

fairly smooth frames again, i would say its a little choppy here and there..still

Click here to watch SH4--UBOAT-ADDON (http://media.putfile.com/SH4--UBOAT-ADDON):rock:

[Ragtag]

Performance is better than SH4 1.4, loadtimes are way faster.
Only GFX bug i have are the watchmen on deck missing their eyes, rest of the crew has eyes. Im using the official forceware 169.25 and i have tried several newer betas with no luck.

[Private-Cowboy]

One question before I buy: What sort of protection does the expansion use? My SH4 uses Securom and needs the disc in the drive. But since the expansion is sold online, is there some online verification that requires you to be online when playing? Because that's something that I could not do. Or does it need the SH4 disc? It would be nice if you could let me know.

[LukeFF]

One question before I buy: What sort of protection does the expansion use? My SH4 uses Securom and needs the disc in the drive.

You obviously are playing with an un-patched version of the game, because the disc hasn't been needed to play the game since 1.3

[Q3ark]

Performance is better than SH4 1.4, loadtimes are way faster.
Only GFX bug i have are the watchmen on deck missing their eyes, rest of the crew has eyes. Im using the official forceware 169.25 and i have tried several newer betas with no luck.

I've had the eyes problem since 1.4. I just ignore it, it's no problem as my watch crew can spot ships without them as they are trained in the ways of the jedi and they simply use the fource:arrgh!:.

Seriousley tho, not noticed any loss of frame rate infact the game runs a lot smoother on my rig than 1.4 did, especially around ports. Overall I am quite happy with it, the USN could have used some attention. More equipment for the subs eg. FM sonar, better detailed models but I can live with it. Worth the £9.99 I spent for it.

[Private-Cowboy]

One question before I buy: What sort of protection does the expansion use? My SH4 uses Securom and needs the disc in the drive.

You obviously are playing with an un-patched version of the game, because the disc hasn't been needed to play the game since 1.3

To be perfectly honest, the last time I played my SH4 was with version 1.2 - I really appreciate this step even more on my laptop because it allows me to swap the drive for a second battery. So its not needed for the 1.5 that is the expension either?

[stabiz]

No, i cant see why.

[LukeFF]

So its not needed for the 1.5 that is the expension either?

No, it's not.

[capthelm]

bug with crew in 1.5
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[miner1436]

The damage on new ships like fiji comes through the deck.

[CCIP]

Yep, I can confirm it too, I'm getting crew stuck on the deck as well. I think this happens after starting from an on-patrol save.

[Ragtag]

Yep, I can confirm it too, I'm getting crew stuck on the deck as well. I think this happens after starting from an on-patrol save.

Never save when submerged. Its a known problem and have been so since SH3 :)

[CCIP]

Nope, I sure didn't save submerged! Still got it.

[Meridian]

bug with sonar room on uboats i get a blank screen.no instruments?



If you don't have realistic Sensors ticked on the options you get a black screen at the hydrophone station.

[kiwi_2005]

frame rates are a disaster in this addon. total mess now compared to 1.4

bug with sonar room on uboats i get a blank screen.no instruments?

..thank god this was only $10 to buy.:down:, over all its a half assed addon imo.
no detailed thought on this 1., may have to uninstall this. till they fix it.

Maybe take alook at your PC, For $10 thats a good buy i brought it for $29.95 and im happy with that.

Frame rates a disaster? Smooth gameplay here.
No blank screen bug? You have some option turned off

Crew under water. Dont get that either well i haven't loaded a save game - I think thats why it bugs out.

[catar M]

No problem here runs great but I have reasonable machine too.I don't have any graphics bugs.

[Ragtag]

Nope, I sure didn't save submerged! Still got it.

Strange, I hav loaded alot of savegames both submerged and on surface. I havent been able to produce that bug.

[kriller2]

frame rates are a disaster in this addon. total mess now compared to 1.4

bug with sonar room on uboats i get a blank screen.no instruments?

..thank god this was only $10 to buy.:down:, over all its a half assed addon imo.
no detailed thought on this 1., may have to uninstall this. till they fix it.

Are you running ROW or PE 1.1alpha? - it sounds like it, beacuse I never had that bug with the sonarguy on the stock SH 1.5. I wrote in the faq for ROW that there is a small problem with the camera, which need an update, don't blame the game-developers for bugs with ROW and the addon! ;)

[LukeFF]

When I tried to do a turn in the Type IX in reverse, the rudder kept coming back to amidships (instead of completing the turn first), so that I never was able to really turn at all.

In the Type IX control room, near the ladder to the conning tower, there's a section of piping that pulsates back and forth. :shifty:

[TDK1044]

The above posts represent some of the reasons why I have no intention of installing this Add On for months yet. I purchased it in order to support the Franchise, but for me, until there is a full U Boat Atlantic Campaign available in 1.5, this Add On is a whole load of trouble for very little gain. Just a personal opinion.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I started a new career as an American (wanted to check out which features were included for it) and the classic cant-complete-mission bug is here again. I was assigned to patrol off of Tokyo (using the guide here at SS, I drew out a 100nm circle and patrolled for 48 hours) but its been four days now, and the mission wont complete :shifty:

(And yes, I did the mousewheel thing)

[Schultzy]

my machine is pretty old and the only time the frame rate drops into single digits is in port. But boy they do look great. So as long as i don't look at where ive been and concentrate on where im going, then it's all fine! :lol:

Actually pretty impressed with this addon so far.

[Seeadler]

BDU has captured comsubpac :up:

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6233653536656163.jpg

A US compas onboard a German U-Boat:hmm:
Perhaps a gift from the US Ambassador in Singapore:rotfl:
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_3264313838393830.jpg

A SH4 stock game bug, but still present, the transparent crew members, now in this AddOn more noticeable because of false environment filter programming
http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_6365373466303334.jpg

[Yoram777]

First I have to say that this add-on is a must have for a SH4 player:up: and especially the new sub upgrade system is much better than the original one.

Besides the standard SH4 flaws, the only seriously annoying thing is the American voices on German subs:damn:
But I simply use the SH3 + GWX2 voices as a temporary solution.

But German crews sure are strange, apparently they're extremely good at holding their breath:-? so looks like I have that crew bug as well, but it only happened for the first time near the end of my first mission, and I dind't save while submerged so I guess it just happens randomly..

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee292/Yoram777/Image1-1.jpg

[Ragtag]

The transparant "bug" isnt a bug i think. Maybe a graphicsengine limitation just as the lights from the lighttowers shining through objects. I guess they would have fixed it if they could. The way to get rid of the transparent thing is to turn off volumetric fog.

[GerritJ9]

Has anybody located where to alter torpedo depth and speed settings when playing the IXD2 in V1.5? I haven't! I hope the devs haven't forgotten this........

[Navarre]

The way to get rid of the transparent thing is to turn off volumetric fog.
No, only a turn off enviromental filter cure this bug.

The bug is the result of an incorrect programming of the Z-order during the render process. I develop 3D entertainemnt applications for years and this is a typical beginner mistake in the use of pixel-shader with render engines.

[FIREWALL]

I have saved plenty of times underwater with no problems.

But I let 'em get in the fecking boat first.:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Jake Nukem]

I think i may have encountered a bug, dunno why it happens but after a certain time under water teh CO2 levels just keep going up and dont refresh even after you surface, its really annoying because i can't make it back to base with the levels i have now.

Anyone else have this problem?

[CCIP]

Another person reported this CO2 thing. I have not seen it yet.
I HAVE, however, seen compressed air spontaneously run out after ordering a crash dive. It only seems to happen when crash diving, normal dives don't affect it. However it charges back up when you surface.
With that though, I have noticed a positive feature: it seems like compressed air is actually used by the boat while manuevering now instead of being a basically useless stat. :)

And weird. Today I reloaded the save game from yesterday where my crew wasn't leaving the conning tower, and they now go in properly again when I dive. Go figure!

[Jake Nukem]

Well, i saved and loaded and it looks like that fixed the problem, might do some further testing...

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Well, i saved and loaded and it looks like that fixed the problem, might do some further testing...

I shall have to investiage. Welcome aboard, by the way. And nice username :rotfl:

[kiwi_2005]

One thing i have found in the last two patrols is there are a lack of escorts in the convoys, ive come across many small convoys with 5 or 6 ships and its been easy pickings - no escorts, one did have a small tug boat with a measly gun, no fear of getting depth chraged. Playing with everything enabled except external view and manual targetting. Its still 1943 and a piece of cake - 71000 tons after two patrols:lol: Of course i can't miss with auto targetting...:roll:

[LukeFF]

One thing i have found in the last two patrols is there are a lack of escorts in the convoys, ive come across many small convoys with 5 or 6 ships and its been easy pickings - no escorts, one did have a small tug boat with a measly gun, no fear of getting depth chraged. Playing with everything enabled except external view and manual targetting. Its still 1943 and a piece of cake - 71000 tons after two patrols:lol: Of course i can't miss with auto targetting...:roll:

Escort protection for shipping in the Indian Ocean was at first greatly lacking, because the British just didn't expect the U-boats to show up there. It was until later that the situation changed.

[stabiz]

Unfortunately, i have the crew-on-bridge-while-underwater-problem myself, and my first patrol ended in tears as my co2-levels went banzai while surfaced, and my men died.

Tried a new patrol now, and found that the crew leaves the bridge (and come back when I surface) if I DONT save the game and reload OR alt+tab. Finished an entire patrol from Penang and back with lots of lurking about looking for the Allies, and no problemos. (Besides my expensive Falke torpedo going boom approx 400 metres from my boat:cry:)

PS: I still get the old stuttering if I let the game run on both cpu cores, but if I limit it to one, it runs like butter. The game looks awesome, runs great and that IXD2 is one beautiful 3D model. Hooray!

[CCIP]

Another small thing I found - the engine sound positioning is backwards when in the interior of the boat. The sounds are coming from the fore of the boat when the engines are aft of the command room. The bow wake sound, conversely, is coming from the aft.

[Burnspot]

Has anybody located where to alter torpedo depth and speed settings when playing the IXD2 in V1.5? I haven't! I hope the devs haven't forgotten this........
Yep, I hope I'm not going blind...I don't see any way to adjust the fish either; in addition, the attack map doesn't seem to have a key anymore (i.e. can't find it). It's talked about in the revamped help pages, but it is no longer listed among the stations with a key.

[ktrboston]

I too have noticed the watch crew enjoying a swim down in the deep depths but I also noticed the radar automatically turn on after you have shut it off. Really don't want to give my position up that easilly. Also it comes on after you surface.
I think its possible the radar turns on from high seas or bad weather. It would seem logical if it does turn on immediately when you surface. Has anyone else notice this. I have noticed it during time compression and at normal time-compression.

[CCIP]

Actually the radar seems to turn off fine after you turn off the constant sweep. Or just turning off the sweep seems to have the same effect, even.

[ktrboston]

Has anybody located where to alter torpedo depth and speed settings when playing the IXD2 in V1.5? I haven't! I hope the devs haven't forgotten this........
Yep, I hope I'm not going blind...I don't see any way to adjust the fish either; in addition, the attack map doesn't seem to have a key anymore (i.e. can't find it). It's talked about in the revamped help pages, but it is no longer listed among the stations with a key.


I see those gauges just fine both speed and depth on the attack map

[ktrboston]

Actually the radar seems to turn off fine after you turn off the constant sweep. Or just turning off the sweep seems to have the same effect, even.

thanks that seemed to do the trick but this might be a dumb quesiton wont the enemy see your radar signature if it is always on?

[Burnspot]

Has anybody located where to alter torpedo depth and speed settings when playing the IXD2 in V1.5? I haven't! I hope the devs haven't forgotten this........
Yep, I hope I'm not going blind...I don't see any way to adjust the fish either; in addition, the attack map doesn't seem to have a key anymore (i.e. can't find it). It's talked about in the revamped help pages, but it is no longer listed among the stations with a key.

I see those gauges just fine both speed and depth on the attack map

I don't see any way to get to the attack map anymore (and therefore the fish guages); it's not listed in the key commands. Perhaps it's just the IXD2.

[Thunder]

No shortcut key that i know of but if you are in your periscope view there are 10 square buttons at the bottom, button 7 is the attack map view, in there are the speed and depth settings.Hope it helps.

[LukeFF]

Other than the lack of german voices, these audio files stand out as "odd," as they're all spoken in english

-Relieve the watch
-Secure from battlestations
-Passing thermal layer (never even have heard of U-boats having such a device)

[Toltol]

I really like the addon especially since I don't like the "normal" pacific theatre represented in SH4. However I've noticed a few bugs:

- Light flaks on IX completely useless due to false / bad positioned crosshairs, i.d. the guns shoot at the middle of the screen, but the crosshairs are not centered. This also means that the AI never hits with these guns. 37mm flaks work alright, 20mm quad seems broken aswell.

- Opening torpedotubes only works for a single tube, i.d. if you are preparing a fan shot you cannot open all the required tubes.

- Some specials seem broken, e.g. Torpedo-Specialist (or Expert) is supposed to give you a small boost to the torp speed in general, yet that boost is way too high or gets applied in a wrong way (time to target for a 2 mile distance run under 10 seconds...).

- Flak stations and deck gun stations can be manned even in storms (quite handy :) ).

- 20mm flaks in general have very low ammunition (~200).

- Typ XVIII sub seems rather weak due to low speed and insufficient fuel reserves - while the walther device enables superfast submerged speed it only has very limited fuel. Surface speed and normal submerged speed are lower compared to the IX which is horrible since you have to travel so long distances.

There are a couple of other minor ones aswell, but the above are the most annoying for me.

[Frenssen]

The hydrophone detects ships from a long distance while the boat is surfaced.

[capthelm]

since i fixed my audio drivers its been good for me, again...few quirks here and there.., my first time i was in a panic this cant be on a top system?


..these drivers can be a real pain in the ass.. at times.:down:

[Paajtor]

- Opening torpedotubes only works for a single tube, i.d. if you are preparing a fan shot you cannot open all the required tubes.


Try if you can go into the conning-tower.
In SH3, you can go there and manually flip the open-tube switches, of the tubes you want to open.

[Paajtor]

Not sure if it's a bug, but I found no way to get a weather-report, in an umoddified 1.5-game...in an American career.

[Raptor22ADF]

New American mission; saved whilst setting options, crew, guns & sensors; and then again in port. Sailed out of Pearl, saved, exit to Windows to perform RL (real life) chores.

Relaunched, reloaded, and ... :down: ... "Passing Thermal Layer" every few seconds.

[badaboom]

Hmmm I can't get the Hydrophone to show up even with realistic sensors checked,anyone else?


******EDIT************Thanks LukeFF,The free camera mod for ROW was the problem.

[LukeFF]

Hmmm I can't get the Hydrophone to show up even with realistic sensors checked,anyone else?

Nope. Mods installed?

[LukeFF]

- Typ XVIII sub seems rather weak due to low speed and insufficient fuel reserves - while the walther device enables superfast submerged speed it only has very limited fuel. Surface speed and normal submerged speed are lower compared to the IX which is horrible since you have to travel so long distances.

The XVIII was projected to have only a 3000-nautical mile endurance on diesels, and that's what the game models it as. Can always be tweaked with S3D if you want to make it like a Type XXI.

[Ragtag]

There are a few bugs reported here that i have never seen or managed to produce.
Try do a clean install. First SH4 then addon... no patches between. This way one can be sure there are no files left from mods or similar problems that may have occured.

[LukeFF]

Type IX does 22 knots on the surface in a quick mission. The real thing could do only 19.2. Even after editing this in S3D I still was making 22 knots.

[LukeFF]

More on the speed thing. This seems really screwed up. In the Type IX, tell the CE to set speed to, say, 15 knots, and the boat will run at 17. Tell the CE to set speed to 10 knots, he will acknowledge 10 knots, but the game sets it to 12.

Something here is just not right. I did not have any crewmen with special abilities to increase the submarine's speed. This problem does not exist with the American boats I have tried out.

[LukeFF]

On another note, I just realized something with the voice acting: all of the crew models move their lips as if they were speaking in German, no matter if German or English crew voices are used. I guess this explains why it looks like the American crewmen make a guppy impression sometimes when they speak. :88)

[Raptor1]

That just seems wrong, they didn't implement German voices but the animations are German? Someone in Ubi has spent too much underwater without surfacing...

[LukeFF]

That just seems wrong, they didn't implement German voices but the animations are German? Someone in Ubi has spent too much underwater without surfacing...

Yep, all of the lip movments are in German, even for the American crews.

[Raptor1]

It's like they wanted to implement the German voices,
but decided being lazy halfway through and
not even fixing what they broke...

Like the Snorkel!

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
KDB hydrophone head 90deg off vertical and in wrong place


:rotfl: http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/22671f80ce/1094606.jpg

[AOTD_MadMax]

This Addon is an big bug !

The german cruiser "Deutschland" comes without any sound and it seems that they have stolen this unit from Gerome, who modded this unit. :down:
Reason : They forgott the DSD.file of this unit.:huh:

I play 1.4 cause it is better.

In my eyes the producers of this addon are noobs, bloddy noobs.
The modders from this community got more knowledge as this nooby UBI-team.

Greets

Maddy

[elanaiba]

The german cruiser "Deutschland" comes without any sound and it seems that they have stolen this unit from Gerome, who modded this unit. :down:


Sir, that is a straight accusation. And the cruiser was made by our artists.

[AOTD_MadMax]

Explain this :

Unit-folder of "Deutschland" called : NCA_Deutschland
Some files of this ship called NBC_GrafSpee_xxx and other files called NCA_Deutschland_xxx.

Normaly all files of an unit got same names. Why this unit an some other units of this addon got different name-files ?
Did your team didnt know where everyone is working on ?

This filename-structure is an example for this addon. In German we say " das ist absoluter Kuddelmuddel ".

The most modders here from this community didnt earn any money for their work and they produce much more better things as i ever seen from UBI and this modders didnt use kashmir for their work.
They work with small selfmade-tools.
Give them your kashmir-tool and you will see that SH4 grows up to an big nice subsim without this stupid bugs.


MFG

AOTD|MadMax

[elanaiba]

The artist thought the ship as a battlecruiser -> NBC which is what it was designed as.

When I created the folder to put the ship in the game I used the real Kriegsmarine classification from 1940, of Heavy Cruiser -> CA -> NCA

I didn't change the dat file name since I wanted the artists not to be confused (too much). Also since the Graf Spee was long gone by the time the U-boat campaign starts, I thought it was more appropriate to use the class name of "Deustschland".

Sorry if this mixup of file names is disturbing to you.
A) it doesn't affect you as a player. The game takes place not in file explorer but in 3D graphics.
B) its not a proof that we stole the model from anyone, which of course we did NOT!

Again, i would be more careful before launching accusation like that in an open forum.

[Penelope_Grey]

This must qualify as a bit of a bug.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/Spider-Hulk/Penny/freaky.jpg

[THE_MASK]

Maybe we could have a thread titled Bugs fixed by modders . Modding is half the fun isnt it :lol:

[AOTD_MadMax]

Hmm,

why did any artist of your team work out the Graf Spee for an szenario in Pacific ?
Didnt they know that the Spee was gone in december 1939 ?
Your explanation of this "Kuddelmuddel" doesnt make any sense to me ! Sorry for that.
I take a look to the 3Dmoddel and to the number of polygons of this unit.
After this i will see clearer.

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

[elanaiba]

Please do and I expect your apologies.

As to why we included the Graf Spee/Deutschland class?

Because commerce raiding in distant waters was the purpose of that class of ships.

Yes, the add-on is to some extent a what if scenario.

[LukeFF]

MadMax, as we like to say here in America, "don't be an ass" and "don't dig a hole deeper than you're already in." I'll leave it at that.

BTW, when is your perfect, bug-free sub sim coming out again?

[LukeFF]

More on the speed thing. This seems really screwed up. In the Type IX, tell the CE to set speed to, say, 15 knots, and the boat will run at 17. Tell the CE to set speed to 10 knots, he will acknowledge 10 knots, but the game sets it to 12.

Figured it out. Tweaking the displacement values caused the ship speeds to go up. Odd, because the ones used as stock are not what why my resources say. Probably doesn't really matter anyways, since we're not out hunting enemy subs. ;)

[AOTD_MadMax]

MadMax, as we like to say here in America, "don't be an ass" and "don't dig a hole deeper than you're already in." I'll leave it at that.

BTW, when is your perfect, bug-free sub sim coming out again?


LoooL to that !

I never said, that i would release a bug-free sub sim.
But if i release a sub sim you wont pay for bugs, you got them for free
:rotfl:

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

[stabiz]

Dont mistake UBI Romania with X1.

[Jaeger]

the draft of the coastal freighter and the small freighter are interchanged in the recognition manual. small freighter must be 5.5 meters, coastal freighter must be 3.7 meters.

ramming a lifeboat sounds like ramming a steelship!

sound of raising the observation scope in the conning tower isnt there.

orders are given by the comsubpac (must be BDU).

the small compass for the tools help is a US compass!

the small lamp for switching auto update modus (for TDC) in the conning tower is always on (how to check, if auto mode is on or off??)

heads of deckwatch are transparent in some weather conditions.

mission goals are not in the grid they speak about. my mission orders were: go to grid sz, but the yellow star was painted in another grid.

open two or more tubes at the same time doesnt run correctly. (possible in conning tower, but impossible at periscope or attack map)

repair and gun crews are leaving position when watch changes. yes, its realistic, but you have to put them back to work after each 4 hours, when damage should be repaired as fast as possible. thats enervous.

greetz, Jaeger

[Raptor1]

the draft of the coastal freighter and the small freighter are interchanged in the recognition manual. small freighter must be 5.5 meters, coastal freighter must be 3.7 meters.


So THAT's what caused me to waste 3 perfectly good torpedoes during my infiltration of Darwin...

[Reece]

All I can do is laugh, everytime an update/patch comes out a few bugs are fixed but even more are created!:rotfl:Sorry but it's better than crying!:lol:

[Jaeger]

the draft of the coastal freighter and the small freighter are interchanged in the recognition manual. small freighter must be 5.5 meters, coastal freighter must be 3.7 meters.


So THAT's what caused me to waste 3 perfectly good torpedoes during my infiltration of Darwin...

yes, same here. i mentioned it when checking my success in the wardiary. the recognition manual gives the same models for both, so you cant evade this problem.

[tennozan]

Community forums are such an interesting place. I generally find that the lack of conversational implicature (basically: communicated intent that is easily mistread because body language is missing in written forums) is daunting enough. Being a simulation gamer and witnessing fellow simmers taking cheap shots at artists and developers, not to mention each other is disparaging at times.

In my opinion, the developers did a good job with getting this add-on to us. Does anybody else think this is a simply amazing thing to play such an intricate and graphically rich WWII submarine simulator as this? The developers demonstrate much more craftmanship and artistry through their product than I think they get credit for. Sure, we pay for a product but they show a passion for their work too.

All of the bugs listed in this post seem to be fixable and I'm sure will be ironed out in short order. I would like to see the developers (UBI team) saddle up and lasso items like revamping the language spoken issue. That seems to be a long term feature that needs to be addressed. Just expecting modders to jury-rig it doesn't seem appropriate. There will probably come a point when Japanese submarines, or British, etc. will be surfacing and there needs to be both language files and interface to select which ones you want to hear.

Anyway, that's my two-cents. I hope these waves die down a bit and we see some smooth sailing ahead. This could be a huge amount of fun both now and in the future.

[Raptor1]

I agree, there aren't a lot of 'Major' bugs in the expansion, overall, it accomplishes it's purpose of "Expanding" the game quite well

[LukeFF]

The tube status lights don't work correctly. Currently they always show the tubes as empty. Should be green for loaded, red for loading-in-progress, and white for empty.

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello
"Penelope_Grey This must qualify as a bit of a bug." (Deck crew transparent)
Easy fix is to Disable enviromental effects. leave volumetric fog on,
and you can still have transparent water etc. at least with PE/ROW mod.
I wonder what is enviromental effects for?:hmm:

[Raptor1]

The see-through people are obviously the crew of the Flying Dutchman, your submarine has been condemned to sail the seas forever...

[AOTD_MadMax]

I agree, there aren't a lot of 'Major' bugs in the expansion, overall, it accomplishes it's purpose of "Expanding" the game quite well

So tell me , what is an majorbug ?
What is the definition of an majorbug ?
Maybe an CTD by launching the game ?

In my eyes there are alot of majorbugs in it which was posted here.
Sorry for that but if i wanne play german subs i prefare to play SH3 with GWX2.0.
I dont need an IXD2 going down in 10 seconds by using crashdive.

This addon is a hit into the modders face cause all modders have to rework their mods.
Only for those two germans subs and an small german campaign without to be able to play these german subs online, this reworked filestructure of the addon is an worst case for the modders.
TMO and all other bigmods have to be reworked if they should work with 1.5. !

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

[Raptor1]

A major bug is a bug that breaks the game, most of the bugs mentioned here we're not

[AOTD_MadMax]

A major bug is a bug that breaks the game, most of the bugs mentioned here we're not

The thing you mean isnt called bug. Its called virus ! :rotfl:

Greets

AOTD|MadMax

[Raptor1]

:damn:...Ah nvm, i give up... :nope:

[tennozan]

Ah, dear AOTD_MadMax. We are trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here but you are not helping anything. Look, some of this is just semantics so you may want to just overlook a bit of it.

Raptor1 is trying to deploy what is known as humor. Sort of like a Bold 1 launcher that fires off good feelings instead of chemicals that make bubbles in seawater. Maybe instead of firing depth charges at him you could, say, relax.

What I might refer to as a bug is simply something that is not as it should be with the game. It doesn't necessarily have to crash the game. That would be a pretty bad bug. Yes, computer viruses can crash computers too but that doesn't necessarily have to be their function (or dis-function depending on your point of view).

Hope this helps! :) And "Greets" to you too.

Back to business at hand: couldn't UBI team just re-work the program to fix the transparency issue so we wouldn't have to work around it by turning off features?

[John Channing]

A long time ago one of the developers stated that the transparency could not be fixed without a major re-write of the code.

JCC

[Raptor1]

EDIT: Damn, i need to read posts better...

[jazman]

One question before I buy: What sort of protection does the expansion use? My SH4 uses Securom and needs the disc in the drive. But since the expansion is sold online, is there some online verification that requires you to be online when playing? Because that's something that I could not do. Or does it need the SH4 disc? It would be nice if you could let me know.

This is for the downloaded version. Online activation is required. Also, there is now a SecuROM directory in my "Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data" which has an update date as of my last time playing. No disc needed, though. No SecuROM service installed, either. Registry has a SecuROM entry (not in services, but in software).

[Raptor22ADF]

1944 U-Boat Campaign

I must have a nuclear-powered sub; started in Batavia, am now patrolling off Brisbane, and still have 100% fuel. :|\\

[Raptor1]

Are you sure you didn't accidentally click off the Limited Fuel thing?

[jazman]

frame rates are a disaster in this addon. total mess now compared to 1.4

My machine is borderline for 1.4: ASUS A7N8X, Athlon XP 3000+, 7600GT, SB Live! card (ie not using on-board sound). I get in the mid-20s with 1.4 / Trigger Maru / RSRDC. No ROW, because ROW puts the framerates around 15, which is unusable. Mid-20s is usable, I know that comes as a shock to you guys who have frame rates in the 100s.

1.5 puts framerate at 14. This is on the bridge, nice weather, calm seas. It's unusable. I bet it's because of the ROW stuff added.

[Raptor22ADF]

Are you sure you didn't accidentally click off the Limited Fuel thing?

It's clicked on. I always keep limited everything with perfect torpedoes.

[Raptor1]

That is weird...or...Yup, your sub must be nuclear then

[nautilus42]

The Crew on the NCA_Deutschland is Japanese::rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Equipment 55]
NodeName=P01
LinkName=char_JPNSailor_lw
StartDate=19380101
EndDate=19451231

<Edited out unnecessary comments>

[swampa]

Some of the gauges in the control room of the IX-D2 are the wrong way round

[Shiplord]

"<Edit unecessay comments>


For 10 Bucks one can not even expect that Ubisoft has run some sort of quality assurance over this product :roll:

[nautilus42]

<Edit unnecessary comments>
For 10 Bucks one can not even expect that Ubisoft has run some sort of quality assurance over this product :roll:

For 10 Bucks i get 100 Bugs and more!!!!!!:yep:

[Reece]

For 10 Bucks i get 100 Bugs and more!!!!!!:yep:
Your lucky, I had to pay $30 for my set of bugs!:lol:

[Soviet_Warlord]

I intercepted this Task Force, and the lead battleship was a Nevada-class. When I went to the recognition manual, I flipped through all the ships and couldn't find it. Does anyone have the Nevada class BB in their manuals?

[Jinx_]

Only get the crew bug randomly while submerged it usualy fixes itself in around 5-10min.

[JT1981]

Hi,guys,i think this is a bug.The magnification of attack periscope should be 6*,but in the game it shows 4*,and when you switch to the exterior view,you will find the in the left on the attack periscope,there says 1.5* and 6*.

does anyone has this problem??

[CCIP]

A few picky technical things -

The KDB hydrophone rotates on its side through the forward torpedo hatch :doh:
That's not how it should be!

The IXD2 shouldn't have one screw inactive when recharging. Unlike all other U-boats, it had a 2nd set of diesels which it could use to recharge batteries independent of propulsion.


The IXD2 seems seriously out of trim when underwater. The bow planes are always down and the stern planes are up (meaning it's bow-light), and the boat bobs up and down while traveling at depth. It should probably be trimmed a bit more neutrally.

[CCIP]

:o

Okay, something's definitely fishy with the deck watch.

Before they wouldn't go in, now they won't come out! I'm surfaced (and resurfaced a few times, even) and they're all inside and won't budge.
And this is where the CO2 non-recharge also hit me.

I think there is some sort of confusion in the sub's surfaced/submerged state change that gets stuck.

[AVGWarhawk]

frame rates are a disaster in this addon. total mess now compared to 1.4
My machine is borderline for 1.4: ASUS A7N8X, Athlon XP 3000+, 7600GT, SB Live! card (ie not using on-board sound). I get in the mid-20s with 1.4 / Trigger Maru / RSRDC. No ROW, because ROW puts the framerates around 15, which is unusable. Mid-20s is usable, I know that comes as a shock to you guys who have frame rates in the 100s.

1.5 puts framerate at 14. This is on the bridge, nice weather, calm seas. It's unusable. I bet it's because of the ROW stuff added.

My frames are great with the addon. Very stead also.

[Ducimus]

Has anyone else noticed you can't recruit anymore officers on fleet boats? Through process of elimination ive figured out the game is limiting officer numbers to ONE.

Not an issue with 1.4, and occurs in stock 1.5. Is there a variable/file im missing somewhere, or is this a hardcoded limitation?


BTW, ive noticed alot of small sublte improvements under 1.5. Such Radar turns on automatically when surfacing, and the deck gun crew bug seems to be fixed.

[snakeyez]

Can you level crewmembers up to officer and have more than one?

This sounds kinda whack. Good find.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm going to try this out Duci.

[Ducimus]

Cool thanks. I will not be surpised if this is a "unique" problem on my end though. I got the crew special abilites working for the pacific game. I noticed this when trying to grab one of those cool new officers from the barracks.

[CCIP]

There is a bugs thread in the U-boat missions sub-forum!

I haven't seen it to 1. On U-boats there is definitely a limit though. Is there a file responsible for this?

[Zantham]

I was looking in the NSS_Uboat18.upcge file in \Data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat18
It has these lines:
MaxPettyOfficers=32 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4
MaxOfficers=6 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

Does that help?

[CCIP]

Where are you testing the frames also? Open sea or in port?

[Ducimus]

>>Does that help?

Maybe. That was acutally the first place i looked. I queried the gato's upc file for "officer" and got no return. I wonder if this is new functionalty/code change in 1.5 that was accounted for in the uboat.upc file, but missed in the fleetboat.upc files?

Looks like i got another file comparsion to do tonight.

[AVGWarhawk]

Although I did not do an actual count of officers, I attempted to add one and was advised to many officers. So, being that I did not count. How many officers are there to start? 5? Perhaps promotions after a patrol of 1 or 2 officers thus bringing your boat up to speed as it were.

[stabiz]

SH4 is much smoother in 1.5 for me.

[CCIP]

SH4 is much smoother in 1.5 for me.

Yea, I figured that was pretty much the consensus.

[kiwi_2005]

SH4 is much smoother in 1.5 for me.

Yea thats what ive notice.

I think in Uboats campaign ive come across that bug where unable to complete objectives. It states patrol for 48 hrs ive patroled for something like 100hrs and still no objective complete - ive sent messages, just get replies telling me to keep to the objectives. But ive only sunk two merchants while patroling this area maybe i need to sink more tonnage then she'll trigger:hmm: If not im heading back to base to start a new mission.

[Madox58]

Why do I feel a need to go to Fenway Stadium?
:hmm:
Oh!
Ya!
Field of Dreams!!
If We build it............
:rotfl:

[AkbarGulag]

I noticed the limit starting a game on a sugar boat in dutch harbour, august 42. (SS 18)

Initial loadout was 6 Lieutenants and 4 petty officers.

My first impression was positive. It always seemed odd that I could fill a fleetboat with untold officers. Learning how flexible these limits are would be a great help.

I was unable to add more officers. Note the six officers and boat type directly correlates with....

MaxOfficers=6 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

\Data\Submarine\NSS_Uboat18

[swdw]

Lines are in the uboats but not the fleet boats (any class)

I used winmerge to find the entry locations in the balao and uboat upc files. Copied the uboat lines over to the Balao upc under the same location. Set the numbers to a ridiculous number as I didn't know how many officers there should be.

Can now recruit officers.

These lines are missing from all Fleet Boats. Checked the 1.4 versions and the lines are not in there, so it's a new parameter for 1.5

Too bad LukeFF seems to be off line now- he has a lot of info on the correct numbers for each boat type.

Maybe Donner can help with the info.

[Ducimus]

Awesome, thats what, i was suspecting, thanks for the confrimation swdw!

How now i can tear into this fix and get on patrol quicker when i get home. :lol:

[CCIP]

I think in Uboats campaign ive come across that bug where unable to complete objectives. It states patrol for 48 hrs ive patroled for something like 100hrs and still no objective complete - ive sent messages, just get replies telling me to keep to the objectives. But ive only sunk two merchants while patroling this area maybe i need to sink more tonnage then she'll trigger:hmm: If not im heading back to base to start a new mission.

Well, all U-boat patrol missions now are two-step - it's reach area, then sink 5000 or 7000t. Perhaps that's how all stock patrol missions work now, too?

you should still get points for reaching area though.

[Lagger123987]

SH4 is much smoother in 1.5 for me.

Yea thats what ive notice.

I think in Uboats campaign ive come across that bug where unable to complete objectives. It states patrol for 48 hrs ive patroled for something like 100hrs and still no objective complete - ive sent messages, just get replies telling me to keep to the objectives. But ive only sunk two merchants while patroling this area maybe i need to sink more tonnage then she'll trigger:hmm: If not im heading back to base to start a new mission.

It's best to not patrol around the star but patrol around the assigned grid like LF49.

[rebel5555]

I think something is wrong with the medal reward screen, because I won a MOH and it says I won a MOH but the medal it displays is a purple heart. The only thing I've modded was the medal graphics and I'm using the graphics captaincox released in his All Medals mod to make the medals look like they do in real life.

[stabiz]

:o

Okay, something's definitely fishy with the deck watch.

Before they wouldn't go in, now they won't come out! I'm surfaced (and resurfaced a few times, even) and they're all inside and won't budge.
And this is where the CO2 non-recharge also hit me.

I think there is some sort of confusion in the sub's surfaced/submerged state change that gets stuck.

I am getting around this by not saving.:rotfl:

[DavyJonesFootlocker]

Man, reading all this I'm thinking of waiting until they fix this add-on. From what I'm reading it's another rushed out project. I may get fragged for saying this but the devs should have tested this add-on properly.

[swdw]

I think something is wrong with the medal reward screen, because I won a MOH and it says I won a MOH but the medal it displays is a purple heart. The only thing I've modded was the medal graphics and I'm using the graphics captaincox released in his All Medals mod to make the medals look like they do in real life.

IF CC's mod uses the menu_1024x768.ini file, things are gonna get mixed up.

[CCIP]

Haha, oh honestly, don't worry. It's always like that with bug threads. In all actuality, despite providing a lot of the reports you see here, I can tell you that the game is maybe 98% good stuff. 1.5 only has a few rough spots that were introduced, but in terms of bugs-per-new-features introduced, it's probably the best new version of an SH game yet :p

[stabiz]

Yeah, I have had 5 or 6 trouble free patrols with the grammophone filled up with soundtracks. The only annoying things are not bugs, but stock stuff that modders later made optional, like very fast clouds, very fast smoke, insane amounts of contact and planes, etc, etc. (I get that the two last ones are meant for the more casual players of todays shooter-generation)

I also like that fact that my uboat get access to the more excotic areas of Japan without getting shot to pieces.

Loving this addon!

[AVGWarhawk]

I also like that fact that my uboat get access to the more excotic areas of Japan without getting shot to pieces.

Now that is cool. I did not think about that when I just took a quick peek a the uboats. I'm guessing someone with a very active imagination could make a great sim with the uboats in the PTO.

[rebel5555]

IF CC's mod uses the menu_1024x768.ini file, things are gonna get mixed up.

It doesn't use menu_1024x768.ini. The only things I've replaced is Data\Textures\TNormal\tex\badges.dds, Data\Menu\Data\AwardsItems_1.dds, and
Data\Menu\Data\AwardsItems_2.dds. But even in the stock game (without any modding) the medals are still screwed up.

[Ducimus]

Any previous medal fixes from 1.4 or earlier are no longer valid. Particuarlly if you plan on using the uboat game, as the KM crew ranks and such have been put into the same files as US navy ranks.

[Karbo]

I had SH4 running well on my computer. After I uninstalled and reinstalled patched to 1.4 put the new U-boat addon on, I get constant crashes. I have a 4600 + AMD Athlon 64X2 Dual core, 2 gigs memory, 8800 GTX with 169.25 drivers, Windows Vista 32 bit Home Premium. I would appreciate any help.

Thanks
Karbo

[scrag]

NVidea Graphics 8800 GT no eyes on the sailors - particularly the deck watch. I also saw some flickering after punching a tanker with a torpedo - that happened once though.

[Paajtor]

I found out, that many fps-issues can be solved, by simply pausing the game, the hit Alt+Tab, stay at desktop for a few secs, and then maximize SH4 again....issue solved.
I also managed to fix the "missing eyes" thing this way.

[Raptor22ADF]

NVidea Graphics 8800 GT no eyes on the sailors - particularly the deck watch. I also saw some flickering after punching a tanker with a torpedo - that happened once though.

nVidia 7600gs and same problem.

[basilio]

NOOOOO!!!!!:damn: :damn: :damn: :damn:
I'm experiencing the same missing-eyes-from-the-crew problem too!!!
Today I just decided to download and install the latest drivers (8.3) for my ATI x1950 PRO AGP, as I was still using the old 7.6 drivers.
Never had this problem before.
Will try to go back to 7.6........

[LukeFF]

These lines are missing from all Fleet Boats. Checked the 1.4 versions and the lines are not in there, so it's a new parameter for 1.5

Too bad LukeFF seems to be off line now- he has a lot of info on the correct numbers for each boat type.

This new parameter works for both the American submarines and the U-boats. Essentially what it means is you can now set crew member limits for junior petty officers (rank level 4-6) and CPOs/Officers (Rank level 7 and above). Nice little feature that will come in handy for future modding work.

[Ducimus]

No more "all kahki's crew", and its about time. Anytime someone posted a picture, and their entire crew was in kahki's, it would make me wince.:rotfl:

[LukeFF]

No more "all kahki's crew", and its about time. Anytime someone posted a picture, and their entire crew was in kahki's, it would make me wince.:rotfl:

LOL, no kidding!

[tennozan]

LukeFF:

Help me out cause I've missed something. I want to be able to add more officers but have found with 1.5 that I seem to be limted to one. What do I need to edit in which files to restore this function to all boats - including the U-boats? Laymans language please - I'm not a modder, just a keyboard skipper. Thanks.

[LukeFF]

LukeFF:

Help me out cause I've missed something. I want to be able to add more officers but have found with 1.5 that I seem to be limted to one. What do I need to edit in which files to restore this function to all boats - including the U-boats? Laymans language please - I'm not a modder, just a keyboard skipper. Thanks.
Look in /Data/Submarine and then navigate to the submarine type you want to edit (such as NSS_Balao). Open up NSS_Balao.upc and copy in this text below MenuSilhouetteTextureName (for the American subs - the German ones already have this feature):

MaxPettyOfficers=32 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4
MaxOfficers=6 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

PettyOfficers refers to the ranks of Petty Officer Third, Second and First Class.
Officers refers to all ranks of Chief Petty Officer and above.

You'll need to edit these numbers for it to work right with the American boats, as those values are for the U-boats.

[Madox58]

You may want to check out the Omega drivers.
Lots of little fixes and tweaks in those.

http://www.omegadrivers.net/

[Ducimus]

Think i used 10 (or 11) and 25 for those numbers with fleet boats.

[LukeFF]

Think i used 10 (or 11) and 25 for those numbers with fleet boats.

Yep, that sounds about right. I think I'll be using 12 for the RFB mod for the officer cap. (7 officers and ~5 CPOs).

[tennozan]

Are there actually any upc files for the German boats? I didn't find any in their file folders - data/submarines/...

[LukeFF]

Are there actually any upc files for the German boats? I didn't find any in their file folders - data/submarines/...

Yes, they're right there with all the others.

[MONOLITH]

Forgive me for not reading 7 pages; but I think the 1.5 patch/add-on broke Anti-aliasing.

If I remember correctly, one of the previous patches allowed AA to work.

Now, it seems to be gone again. Look at this pic.

This is at 1680x1050, and it's at 6X AA, with Temporal AA turned on as well.

It should not look like this....

http://www.mayhemonstrings.com/Images/AA.jpg



X1950 pro, 8.3 drivers.

Can anyone confirm?

[MONOLITH]

Sorry if this mixup of file names is disturbing to you.
A) it doesn't affect you as a player. The game takes place not in file explorer but in 3D graphics.


LOL. :up:

[Charlie901]

Also,

No periscope wakes on stock game plus 1.5...

Don't know if this was removed from original or never included but it doesn't look right. :down:

[tennozan]

Nope. Not in my SH4 data/submarine/.... u-boat folders. Looked very carefully at each file extension and none are *.upc files. They are in the American sub folders but I simply can't find any in the U-boat folders. Is this not supposed to happen?

[Sturm]

Nope. Not in my SH4 data/submarine/.... u-boat folders. Looked very carefully at each file extension and none are *.upc files. They are in the American sub folders but I simply can't find any in the U-boat folders. Is this not supposed to happen?

In submarine folders there should be NSS_Uboat_9d2.upcge and NSS_Uboat_18.upcge and in data folder there should be folder called UPCDataGE.

[stabiz]

I have AA in 1.5. Go into nVidia control panel and set the AA once more, and it should work.

[tennozan]

OK, got it Sturm. Thanks for the assist. Good Hunting, JD

[MONOLITH]

I would love to go to my Nvidia panel, if I had an Nvidia card. Perhaps this is yet another ATI only issue.



X1950 pro, 8.3 drivers.

Can anyone confirm?

[Jib01]

Some things that have not been mentioned yet and are not bugs but have put an additional load on the processors is the gridwork that follows the mouse when you are in map mode and plotting and running the course.

This part of the game is much slower than stock 1.4 because of the grid and also an increase in Japanese convoys. Trying to go at 8192 speed is impossible. It takes longer to get your U-boat to station.

Oh, yes, what is that extra icon that is assigned to special something. And how do you call in air support that the message center says you can do now ?

Isn't this fun.....

Regards
Jib01
:hmm: :x :doh: ;) :-? :rotfl: :sunny:

[stabiz]

The extra icon is available when you have officers with spesial abilities. Air support can be called for by clicking on the airfields on the map.

[iricund]

I'm not sure if this falls under the whole crew on deck underwater 'bug', but it seems that my crew are loading our reserve external torpedoes whilst submerged also. Apologies if this has been noted earlier.

Haven't extensively tested it but it may only be in cases where the loading was initially started on the surface, then carried on after submerging for a pesky search plane as this was the case when I noticed it. The loading was going on still ten minutes later at 60m.

[MONOLITH]

The loading was going on still ten minutes later at 60m.



That's the "Dedicated Crew" special ability. :rotfl:

[MONOLITH]

but I think the 1.5 patch/add-on broke Anti-aliasing.



UPDATE.

I just tried again. This is 6X AA, temporal AA on, and Adaptive AA on high.

It's not working. ATI 8.3 drivers. I do take a frame rate hit as if it's 'trying' to work, but look at this pic, it's definately not.

http://www.mayhemonstrings.com/Images/aa2.jpg



Can anyone else with ATI check theirs and see?

Please and Thank you.




.

[LukeFF]

Missing textures in the conning tower of the Type IX (haven't checked if it's a problem with the XVIII as well). Also note the tube status lights are white instead of green:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-08_103453_312.jpg

[StevenLohr]

I own SH4, and have it installed on my computer in Program/Games/SH4. Apparently, the automatic install for the UBoat missions doesn't recognize this, and aborts the installation. The install program doesn't give the option of manually directing the program to the correct program game path. If anyone has any suggestions on how to correct this, I would appreciate it. I've already fired off an email to ubisoft, but given its the weekend, I won't hear back until Monday:cry:

[Maat]

Miss the eyes of some crew members. :arrgh!:



Ich bin weg....

[LukeFF]

Don't know why the devs coded it like this, but...

...the highest officer rank the crew can achieve is Leutnant zur See. This is obviously incorrect, as many an officer below the CO on U-boats held the rank of Oberleutnant zur See. It can be modded to allow crewmen to be promoted to Oberleutnant, but then the crew portrait is that of the Seaman ranks, and there is no rank insginia present for the rank.

[LukeFF]

Couple of issues with the interiors:

In both the XVIII and the IXD2, the clock in the sonar room does not work, nor does it make a ticking sound.
Clock in the radio room does not make a ticking sound.
Type XVIII TDC, in the control room - there are misaligned indicator needles:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-08_185006_562.jpg

Also in the XVIII, the observation periscope comes up through the floor:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-08_185226_734.jpg

And lastly, in both the IXD2 and XVIII, one of the two dive plane indicator needles is backwards (left one is the likely culprit):http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-08_212851_234.jpg

[Captain von Keldunk]

Hello StevenLohr:D
If you have Vista, install sh4 to C: Ubisoft/sh4
Not in "Program":up: :up:

[basilio]

but I think the 1.5 patch/add-on broke Anti-aliasing.



UPDATE.

I just tried again. This is 6X AA, temporal AA on, and Adaptive AA on high.

It's not working. ATI 8.3 drivers. I do take a frame rate hit as if it's 'trying' to work, but look at this pic, it's definately not.

http://www.mayhemonstrings.com/Images/aa2.jpg



Can anyone else with ATI check theirs and see?

Please and Thank you.




.
I have an ATI x1950 pro with 512 RAM and I have no problems with AA in the expansion, but I'm using the 7.6 drivers, not the last 8.3.
To be sure, launch the game, pause it, then go back to desktop with alt-tab.
Now, with the game still running in background, launch the CCC and then close it.
Go back to game.
I had the same issue (AA seemed not working) but then I solved the problem following the above procedure.
A second solution is to create, from CCC, a profile for SHIV.
Hope it helps!

[Erich Topp]

U-boat Addon gave me some real fun, and I don't miss my 10$)) But this is not a simulator. It's closer to Enigma Rising Tide I guess. Picking hydrophone contacts on flank speed (21 kts for IXD2.. nice diesels!) from 20-25 km is like radar-sonar device in ERT. GHG set has also Balkongerat included (on the model). So there's no reason actually to upgrade - you will lose upwater detection "ability"))

Also I noticed some bug, maybe it's already spoken in this thread - my IXD2 dived to 280 (!) meters without any problems. On 290 meters 3% of hull were gone, than all became quiet again)) I believe if germans could have such an uberboat in 1943, they can win a battle of atlantic))

PS: 400 000 tons of shipping per 3 patrols, including two Battleships and one carrier. Realism settings - only with external view turned on.

PPS: I also wonder, why supply tanker have so many torpedoes to refit me)) I did it few times per one mission. But I really like new concept of "send status - receive new objective" mission.

I love SH4 more now, but this is not a simulator more)) Until some things aren't fixed. Now it's modders turn!

[LukeFF]

Flag on the Taiho carrier is mis-aligned:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-09_235538_093.jpg

[CCIP]

U-boat Addon gave me some real fun, and I don't miss my 10$)) But this is not a simulator. It's closer to Enigma Rising Tide I guess. Picking hydrophone contacts on flank speed (21 kts for IXD2.. nice diesels!) from 20-25 km is like radar-sonar device in ERT. GHG set has also Balkongerat included (on the model). So there's no reason actually to upgrade - you will lose upwater detection "ability"))

Also I noticed some bug, maybe it's already spoken in this thread - my IXD2 dived to 280 (!) meters without any problems. On 290 meters 3% of hull were gone, than all became quiet again)) I believe if germans could have such an uberboat in 1943, they can win a battle of atlantic))

PS: 400 000 tons of shipping per 3 patrols, including two Battleships and one carrier. Realism settings - only with external view turned on.

PPS: I also wonder, why supply tanker have so many torpedoes to refit me)) I did it few times per one mission. But I really like new concept of "send status - receive new objective" mission.

I love SH4 more now, but this is not a simulator more)) Until some things aren't fixed. Now it's modders turn!
I think it's just cause we're so used to the modded SH3/4 now :D

I don't think it's so much a bug, just the way the game was originally designed. But modders should be near!

I did have similar thoughts cross my mind when after 3 patrols with almost 100,000t (and I play using rather realistic procedures instead of exploiting every trick in the book) on a IXD2 in 1943, I went and started a career with an American sub using a modded Trigger Maru + RSRDC with "hardcore" torpedoes and got 12,000t in the same 3 patrols :88)

[LukeFF]

Medium Modern Passenger/Freighter crew nodes aren't aligned correctly:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/LukeFF/SH4/SH4Img2008-03-10_161336_281.jpg

[iricund]

"Crew" nodes seem out on a lot of things. I see troops and dockworkers go out for jaunts across harbours Jesus style, not just on shipping.

There seem to be an awful lot of random ship collisions and ships miraculously spawning up mountains/ashore than I remember from before I started to play modded - that may just be me though. I pretty much jumped straight into a TM+RSRD setup a day or two after buying the stock game.

[Paajtor]

"Crew" nodes seem out on a lot of things. I see troops and dockworkers go out for jaunts across harbours Jesus style, not just on shipping.

There seem to be an awful lot of random ship collisions and ships miraculously spawning up mountains/ashore than I remember from before I started to play modded - that may just be me though. I pretty much jumped straight into a TM+RSRD setup a day or two after buying the stock game.
Maybe it's the old "don't save game close to harbor" syndrome again.

[iricund]

Nope, I first noticed them at the start of a new patrol steaming North out of Surubaya in the German campaign. Thought it wierd seeing smoke littering the horizon at the start of the patrol and saw five separate ships aground. I can only hypothesise that they were scripted in some way to spawn there at the start of the mission rather than in the water.

[znatan]

Hey. I update both Uboat submarine files with bellow while in port, start the game and nothing :damn: - can't add more then 6 officers? Any idea why? I play stock with bellow MOds - noth special

MaxPettyOfficers=32 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4
MaxOfficers=20 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

360 degree bearing plotter imperial 1.5
DAS BOOT Music
ROW pacific Enviroments 1.1alpha Install PE 1_1
ROW Sound Effect v_9
ROW pacific Enviroments 1.1alpha Patch for pe1_2Alpha
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEACH FIX_V2
Metric_Nomograph_V15
NaturalSinkingMechanics_40 light

Thanks !!!

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Merged Ducimus' thread with this one so everything is in one place. I'll ask Neal if we can get some kind of "modding U-Boat addon" sticky up, but it may fall into the SH4 mods category :yep:

[iricund]

Hey. I update both Uboat submarine files with bellow while in port, start the game and nothing :damn: - can't add more then 6 officers? Any idea why? I play stock with bellow MOds - noth special

MaxPettyOfficers=32 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 4
MaxOfficers=20 ; max number of crewmembers over rank 7

360 degree bearing plotter imperial 1.5
DAS BOOT Music
ROW pacific Enviroments 1.1alpha Install PE 1_1
ROW Sound Effect v_9
ROW pacific Enviroments 1.1alpha Patch for pe1_2Alpha
Spaxs SH4 Uboat SPEACH FIX_V2
Metric_Nomograph_V15
NaturalSinkingMechanics_40 light

Thanks !!!

NSM isn't compatible at the moment with 1.5 I don't believe. Equally It deals with the ins and outs, zones and the like of Japanese shipping which I doubt you're shooting torps at in your U-boat. I'm no expert but it could well be causing your crashes as it tries to load. Well worth dropping out of your setup for the time being (as much as it hurts to not play with such an essential piece of kit. :up: To Werner Sobe.

[hyperion2206]

So far the game is ok, but I found this weird bug:
I started in 43 from Surabaya and first of all noticed that the orders that you recieve are not translated correctly.
Then when you leave the harbor there are some destroyed ships:

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2686/bug1xz3.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4237/bug2mm4.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9572/bug3xd7.jpg

I could understand if they would have beached the ships, but to put them on dry land is a bit too much.:lol:

One minor thing: My U-Boat crash dived in about 3 seconds.:o

[WernerSobe]

dont use NSM with the addon. It will definetely cause problems.

[Dogzero1]

Major problems with my U Boat dvd install. Never had problems previously, but 1.5 is now jerky as hell. Eyes missing. Ships on land and crew on bridge under water. Poor really. Going back to 1.4 and RFB.:damn:

[Claudius]

It was ridiculous the siren of alarm of the American submarines in U-BOATS!!!
A serious flaw in my opinion. What do find? And the crew members' voices were horrible in English, they could have put the option of voices in German, to be more realistic.

[M. Sarsfield]

I think that this is an old bug, but I noticed Japanese crewmen and civilians on board a Liberty Ship that I sunk south of the Phillippines. The Jap sailors were manning the bow deck gun. I should have taken a screenie, but I didn't.

Also, I've been playing on "very hard" with 90%+ realism (I like my camera views) and the planes are waaaaay too easy to shoot down. Looking forward to installing the supermods for 1.5.

I was happy to see that my first 4 German fish that I fired hit their targets at several thousand yards (I forgot to switch to Metric). I'm happy to see that I never lost my German TDC groove. :arrgh!:

[Claudius]

Bugs that I observed....

- Delay in the in almost all of the orders... and warnings...
- One of the crew members that they are in the tower, is transparent" (the one on the left side), of the to see through him!
- I already dove with the crew members in the machine guns and cannon, unassuming in the "vigil submerged!"
- I went to the bottom because the crew members didn't repair a single damage... same existing all of the conditions for that....

They make a beautiful expansion exactly to see if it saves the game, putting U-boats but they leave everything as the Americans: the sirens... "COMSUPAC" or opposite of BDU.... (nor they changed the form of sending of messages!), they left the sounds in English.... and "the same voices of the Americans"... it was horrible!!!

[simkodavid]

Hi all,
I'm new to SH4, used to play Silent Hunter Commander Edition (kind of a special release of SH1) a lot. I still keep the whole package.

Decided to come back to the game, I've bought SH4+U-Boat Add on and installed it. I've downloaded Captain Midnights CBS NEWS Sound Mod, BBC_World sound mod and GreenLamp1.5 mod. I've decided on practicing a while before downloading SH4-ver15_TMO and RSRDC_V310_for_V15.

1. Game related question: when submerged and taking damage on the deck gun, why is the deck gun crew injured? I'm submerged, they are not suppose to be on deck?

2. Game crash: I've played the tutorial and the first two Patrol missions, difficulty level - 50. I keep getting game crashes at least one per mission, some times more.

3. Sound from radio problem: while playing the radio, now and then one of the added radio stations plays in a very fast pitch or very slow but not the original station (washington).

Are any of the mentioned above problems related to the mods or are the mods verified as problems free?

Last but not least,(not a bug) What happened to the calendar with sunrise and sunset times, and is there an option for weather reports ? an add on maybe?

I followed most of the advices found on the forum, i.e latest drivers for my Radeon X800 and the onboard sound. clean install of XP pro, the CPU is P4 3G, M/B is Abit and I've installed 2GB of RAM.

The only programs loaded besides hardware drivers are
the HP PSC drivers and ZoneAlarm security suite.

Have I missed something or is it normal game behaviour?

Thanks in advanced.

[scrag]

I had the orange arrowcircle locator both in the water and overhead in the sky. I saved the game in the open ocean and away from anytihng. When I reloaded the msn it was corrupt. It started out okay then 2 minutes into it the first officer starts repeating torpedo in the water over and over again till it stops responding and crashes. One thing of note is that I was playing Company of Heroes prior too playing SHIV1.5. Now I reboot the machine first and no problems.

[wetwarev7]

Another small thing I found - the engine sound positioning is backwards when in the interior of the boat. The sounds are coming from the fore of the boat when the engines are aft of the command room. The bow wake sound, conversely, is coming from the aft.
I had also noticed this, and it really bugs me.

I've only read the first 2 or 3 pages of this thread so forgive me if it's been said allready, but when I look forward from the bridge the water near the front of the boat seems to vibrate. I get decent framerates and everything else looks fine, it's just that water right there at the front. If I look left or right, the water there seems fine.

Also, I get the crewmen staying on deck while submerged. I haven't tested it, but at the time I thought it was because I submerged while at battlestations.

(EDIT) I just noticed that the conning tower in the Uboat doesn't do night lighting with the rest of the ship....

[Dogzero1]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/dogzero1/dasboot1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/dogzero1/dasboot2.jpg

[wetwarev7]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.





Is that a bug report or an ad for GWX2? :rotfl:

[Paajtor]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.

Those are rubbish pics....exactly the reason why I took the next step, to SH4.:lol:
Omg, those are boring. Been looking at that for over 3 years...thx.:()1:

[LukeFF]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.

How about you try this?: if you can't contribute to the topic of the thread, then don't post in it. :roll:

[basilio]

- Light flaks on IX completely useless due to false / bad positioned crosshairs, i.d. the guns shoot at the middle of the screen, but the crosshairs are not centered. This also means that the AI never hits with these guns. 37mm flaks work alright, 20mm quad seems broken aswell.

This bug is driving me crazy, as I can only use the 37mm flak..trying to aim with the two others light flak guns is almost impossibile.
Is there a quick fix for this?

[Seeadler]

http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben/91/3063991/1280_3431346430393139.jpg
a.D. = außer Dienst in German or "retired" in English!
Grand Admiral Dönitz retired 1945 not 1943:rotfl:

[AVGWarhawk]

Dogzer1

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.

Just for fun, run SH3 without any mods. Report back what you see. SH3 got the way it is today by some fine modders who took 2 years to create it. Giving the devil his due, see how SH4 is looking in about 12 months. See how the PTO part of SH4 is looking now in just under year. It is very good with the likes of TMO/RFB/ROW/RSRD and others. The add-on has been out for 4 weeks. It will take time to get it up to snuff. Until then, perhaps some help getting there is in order. What can you do to make it better?

[Herr_Pete]

Not a single problem! runs smoothly! perfect! loving it! except the anoyin american voices and the damn Dive alarm:huh:

[LukeFF]

-The camera angle on some of the German AA guns is indeed off, resulting in the rounds not going where the gun is pointed.

-More of a design decision than a bug, but it really looks silly seeing American radar scopes in German submarines.

[Ducimus]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........

So helpful!

[LukeFF]

The German awards are not set up properly. Players can earn the Knight's Cross before the other medals, and in at least one case a player has reported earning the U-boat Front Clasp more than once.

[Fortune]

Not a single problem! runs smoothly! perfect! loving it! except the anoyin american voices and the damn Dive alarm:huh:

Hi, there is a german "language patch".
So your crew will talk german. Sadly the americans will talk german, too.
But I heard of a modification wich gives you the chance to enable this language pack via JSGME like a normal mod.

May be I'll search for it later on.

[Dogzero1]

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........

So helpful!

Your'e welcome.:up:

[Dogzero1]

Dogzer1

Yep, after trying it out for the last two weeks, all I can say is 1.5 U-Boat addon is rubbish at this present time.

Back to the superb GWX2 SH3 for my U-Boat fix...........see pics below.

Just for fun, run SH3 without any mods. Report back what you see. SH3 got the way it is today by some fine modders who took 2 years to create it. Giving the devil his due, see how SH4 is looking in about 12 months. See how the PTO part of SH4 is looking now in just under year. It is very good with the likes of TMO/RFB/ROW/RSRD and others. The add-on has been out for 4 weeks. It will take time to get it up to snuff. Until then, perhaps some help getting there is in order. What can you do to make it better?

I have been playing sub sims since the first Silent Service by Microprose. I don't need you to tell me what to do or what I should look for. I have purchased (thats purchased) every sub game on the day of their release since the mid 80's.:nope: I know all about the great work the modders do, and I am eternally grateful. But I tell the truth here, the U-Boat addon is rubbish straight out of the box. Thats all I'm saying. Trying to belittle me bacause you have some sort of self importance as a long standing member, won't wash with me. I have been a member of Combatsim, and various others like frugals since they started. I don't have time to mod or post on here because I am a serving member of the UK Armed Forces.:damn: :up:

Thanks for your advice though.

[LukeFF]

Your'e welcome.:up:

Right, in a thread about reporting bugs, your post about the add-on being rubbish and going back to SH3 was just soooo helpful in letting the devs know what issues need attention.

Is that what they teach you in the UK armed forces, to report information that's irrelevant to the situation at hand?

[Fincuan]

Is that what they teach you in the UK armed forces, to report information that's irrelevant to the situation at hand?

Sounds like the PR department of any army(or any other governmental institution or huge company for that matter) :D

[Dogzero1]

Your'e welcome.:up:

Right, in a thread about reporting bugs, your post about the add-on being rubbish and going back to SH3 was just soooo helpful in letting the devs know what issues need attention.

Is that what they teach you in the UK armed forces, to report information that's irrelevant to the situation at hand?

I believe I had stated earlier in this thread exactly what problems and bugs I was encountering. Please dont take anything I say personally, as I dont mean to upset any of you. It's not a matter of life and death chaps. I'll be seeing you all another time, as this is getting rather surreal. It's only a game.:roll:

[NiKuTa]

After 6 day of playing and testing addon U-boota, I can tell that it is a crap :(.
- A lots of sound bug, like jamming sounds, hydrophone sometimes dont hear a sounds, ( i was 2 times sunked by a ship which i don hear), Sound in UbootIXd2 is buged, engine in front, water sound beck, enemy destroyer come from right i hear him from left side.
Some sounds sometimes aren't played. like when you dive, or go down to periscope deeph.
- a lots of missing textures for, ships, guns on ships, or planes.
- missing textures from gauges in U-boot.
- Some ships don't have engine sounds.
- german ships are not really a german but english or japs, like destroyer or schnellboot
- In u-boot addon we have a 3 sailors on tower, really was 4.
- reloading external torpedoes underwater :)
- crosshair in 20mm AAguns id in wrong position.
- Only IXD2 uboot like there was no IXB, IXC. No milk cows.
- Flaying ships in storm weather.
- Convoys are almost the same, same ships, same numbers of ships, go almost the same path, and without escort. It's like shooting to ducks.
- stupid warning icons.
- Ubi add something like Battles on see. We can call for a support and we can see battles TF vs TF or Ships Vvs ships, but they don't create any AI scripts for that. Ship just go straight.
- and a lot of other stupid bugs.

In my opinion Ubi do this addon because ppl dont bay a SH4. a lot of ppl still play SH3. Why? because ppl (we) prefer a U-boots, and we got a supermods. They (ubi) try to do something and thay do a crap. Game which is boring, for me its more like shooter not a simulation. We will have to wait for rally good mods like GWX, WAC or NYGM for SH4, without supermods this game will be only a boring shooter.

I rally glade that i have a SH3 with GWX2.0, and OLC staff. Thx GWX team and onelifecrisis for a rally good staff.
SO starting a SH3 and take orders for a new patrol . GRID AM18. :)

[Darkranger85]

I'm having many problems.

1. The game CTDs randomly and often, I havent even been able to fire a single torp since getting the add on.

2. Sub gets "stuck" in ports. The engines just wont work.

3. HUGE drop in fps and there isnt anyone thats gonna convince me its cause I dont have the specs. This computer is MORE then a match for this games requirments.

As a side I'm also getting the no eyes thing and see through crew but I can live with that.

[Jib01]

Sorry guys, my upgrade is working fine. The new interface is really great. There are actually Warships in the harbors and docks now along with T3 Tankers.

I'm a happy camper......

Regards
Jib01
:up: :up: :up:

[Mast]

I bought the U-Boat Missions and I like it so far. I can't believe the major errors in this. The majority have been mentioned. Here's what I've seen wrong.

1.) When you choose a depth, it's about 2 or 3 meters short then what you picked.
2.) My fuel tank levels don't decrease when on patrol.
3.) FuMO-30 radar doesn't retract when submerged. You can see it under water.
4.) I get the creepy missing eyeballs (conning crew) and during certain weather conditions, they're see through.
5.) Everyone speaks English! How could they get that wrong?:doh:
6.) Same with COMSUBPAC sending me messages!:doh:
7.) The KDB hydrophone is in the wrong place, it rotates through the hatch. It should be about a meter forward away from the hatch. I also get the hydrophone contacts while on the surface.

Lets see what else is wrong.

Mast

[col_Kurtz]

bug with crew in 1.5
[url=http://imageshack.us]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9279/crewunderwater15bugxk9.jpg[/ Not only 1.5. I saw that all the time, doesn`t matter, 1.3, or 1.4. In SH3 too, rough sea for example.

[Maltro]

Hi, Due to see an ugly ball in the sky of SH4, I have decided to upgrade my graphic card from ATI X1900XT to a NVIDIA 8800GT...

But what my dispointment when I see the same problem with my new card...

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/maltro/SH4Img2008-04-05_021150_875.jpg

I don't speak English very well but believe me, first I was: http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif so http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif...

So I decided to use the nvidia control panel and disable some settings by chance. I succed to see a beautiful sun when I have put the AA setting on "let the application choose" but unfortunatly I loose the AA effect... I let you see:

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u204/maltro/SH4Img2008-04-05_021207_515.jpg

Is there any setting wich allow me to have the both effects on, with my graphic card?... At least It seems AA doesn't works (again) with 1.5 version.

Another "bug" wich appear again since 1.5: I can see white lines around the sub or the ship at the limit between water and hull. This ugly things disapear when I switch off the setting "realistic waves" or "3D wake" (or something like that... sorry for translation!) It is a shame cause this trouble disapear with 1.4 patch.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/touche.gif

[Syxx_Killer]

Maltro, I will have the same issue as you with my 8600GT if I have Gamma Correction on. Try turning off gamma correction within your nVidia drivers.

[Jib01]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=134561

Regards
Jib01

[Maltro]

Maltro, I will have the same issue as you with my 8600GT if I have Gamma Correction on. Try turning off gamma correction within your nVidia drivers.

Thanks for your reply Syxx, I have tried to disable gamma correction in nvidia control panel and sun glare works even if I choose "Improve application parameter" :) but then there is no AA in game. :damn: If I choose "replace application parameter", sun glare disapear again... but AA is on.

Does the both effects works for you? :o If it works, could you give me what is your settings on nvidia control panel ? and what is your driver version please? I have got the last (169.21). :cry:

[Syxx_Killer]

I have the 169.21 drivers, too. Yeah, I get AA with gamma correction on or off. I prefer gamma correction off because I lose bloom effect with it on. Here are my settings I use. I have my drivers set to be SH4 specific. In the screenshot, the settings I use are shown. Everything else is the default setting.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9884/nvidiasettingsyz8.jpg

[Maltro]

I have the 169.21 drivers, too. Yeah, I get AA with gamma correction on or off. I prefer gamma correction off because I lose bloom effect with it on. Here are my settings I use. I have my drivers set to be SH4 specific. In the screenshot, the settings I use are shown. Everything else is the default setting.


Thanks Syxx, it is very strange, I have tried your settings, came back to game and sun halo first appear but disapear after 2 seconds.... :damn:

I have found a topic ( http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=830818&posted=1#post830818 ) wich give a good setting to have the both settings activated and it works but only with AA multisampling 4x maxi. Gamma correction can be use too :88)

It is a good setting, so I will use this one to play. There are 2 other little things I would like to solve and it will be ok! (see link)

Thank you for your help!

[brandtryan]

mmk, I think I read the whole thread and didn't see a post about my problem--the SO calls out a contact, and when I go to that bearing on the instrument, there is nothing there--no sound, no text "Merchant" or "Warship" in the upper right text. Anyone else see this?

[brandtryan]

That's interesting--I'll give that try as well.

I'm not sure if it's the same as you, but in a test mission with 2 ships at different bearings sailing at 5 knots, my SO called contacts but I could hear anything, not even a faint noise. edit : no ship label either, and the green light on the hydro station didn't pop up.
With the exact same mission setting but the ships sailing at 10 knots I could hear them perfectly :hmm:

[LukeFF]

This is a new one to 1.5 and is not affected by any mods:

When at the PPI screen, watch the scope as it passes bearing 000 - the scope will "jump" to about bearing 005-007.

[wetwarev7]

Don't know if it's been mentioned or not, but the hydrophone on the u-boats has 361 degrees. It goes 358, 359, 360, 000, 001....etc...

I seem to recall this being true in SH3 as well.

[elanaiba]

Its hard to have more than 360 degrees, its probably a round-down/up error. As in 359.999 is shown as 360, 0.0001 is shown as 0.

[Elder-Pirate]

Some nit-picking : the u-boot crewmen have "united states marine corps" belt buckles :p


REALLY? I'll notify Washington asap. http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y116/oleman/tank.gif :D

[TripleDaddy]

Fun fact you should know: If you have a "Proceed to grid co-ordinate blah-blah and sink shipping at your discretion - 5000 tons would be a nice start" mission, you don't have to be anywhere near that grid coordinate to meet your quota.

My coordinate location was off the tip of Madagascar. After spending ten days patrolling and only getting a pair of fishing boats, I headed for the Gulf of Aden. Found and bagged a 4-ship unescorted convoy and lo and behold, got the mission complete check-mark - 2000 km from my intended patrol location.

Not sure if that constitutes a bug and I'm pretty sure I don't want it fixed. ;)

[Jib01]

That has happened to me a number of times. I think the area is greater than 100 nautical miles in that case. I vote with you that it may not be a bug but designed in on purpose.

Regards
Jib01

[wetwarev7]

Its hard to have more than 360 degrees, its probably a round-down/up error. As in 359.999 is shown as 360, 0.0001 is shown as 0.

That's not quite it. It would still need to go from 359 to either 360 OR 000. Not both. When you turn the hydrophones around, it goes from 358 to 359 to 360 to 000 to 001....etc, that's 361 degrees. Rounding has nothing to do with it.

It's very easy to add that extra number to an array when you are programming.

[haegemon]

Edit: Sorry, target miss.

[LukeFF]

Just a question...I presume this addon will contain the corrections made by older patches. I mean, I can install the stock game with this addon and have the corrections. Is it?

Er...this is a thread to report bugs with the add-on. ;)

[supposedtobeworking]

first bug I've noticed since getting the addon..playing a american career in 1942...salmon class sub. Surfaced in mild weather, crew will not man the deck gun, but I can operate it manually. I order and reorder them to fire and get audible acknowledgement but no execution. Anyone else run into this? Do I have to do everything myself??

one other thing, right before this patrol I got a bow mounted gun to replace the stern mounted one. In the crew management screen in mission, there is no Deck gun compartment to put people in...is this normal?

[Cap_Observatore]

Hi mates,

First of all, sorry if Im raining twice in same place, I can´t read all that posts before mine. That adon is normal U-boat crew speaking english? Our it´s a bug of my instalation our a knowed fault of that crap adon?:damn:

Intalled, played and Im playing my SH3 GWX 2.1 yet. At least this gamer SH4 beging have basic things like germans speaking like germans in Uboats.

Waiting SH4 GWX, what´s better to pay them any stock.:arrgh!:

[Cap_Observatore]

Done a self workaround, copy and past all your german speeky GWX folder, them loaded it with jsgme. Ok crew speaking right now.

But im registering my insatisfaction, that simple things need come with a stock adon of a Subsim for some basic imersion. Things like that are basics and must have in any stock adon.

[icecold]

Hi all... I am too looking for a solution to the many problems i am facing...

If you know a solution to my problems please please reply. If you can... send a link to the actual solution. All help appriciated.

WINDOWS VISTA 32BIT
INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.93GH
4GB CORSAIR RAM
NVDIA 8800 GTX GRAPHICS CARD
1TB HARD DISC

BEFORE YOU STATE THE OBVIOUS... EVERYTHING IS UPDATED.


PROBLEMS
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1) All my crew above deck have no eyes... yes you heard that right, no eyes. the just have empty sockets and its quite disturbing.

2) All my screw above deck are translucent.

3) Sometimes, when i destroy or attack a vessel/airplane... i get the lovely blue screen of death... if i update my graphics card driver to a beta... i dont get it anymore... instead i get a black screen of nothing and then a complete system freeze.

4) When diving... all my men on deck stay on deck... looks like they are praticing there yoga breathing excersises.

5) Is there someway of getting german sounds/voices?

6) Is there a way of getting better effects?

[dcb]

PROBLEMS
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1) All my crew above deck have no eyes... yes you heard that right, no eyes. the just have empty sockets and its quite disturbing.

2) All my screw above deck are translucent.

3) Sometimes, when i destroy or attack a vessel/airplane... i get the lovely blue screen of death... if i update my graphics card driver to a beta... i dont get it anymore... instead i get a black screen of nothing and then a complete system freeze.

4) When diving... all my men on deck stay on deck... looks like they are praticing there yoga breathing excersises.

5) Is there someway of getting german sounds/voices?

6) Is there a way of getting better effects?


1) Classic bug, caused by vista drivers. Serch around these forums for zombie crew. No fix AFAIK, unless downgrading your system to the good ol' reliable XP.

2) Bug caused by volumetric fog. Turn it off and crewmen become once again opaque, but you'll lose all those nice fog effects.

3) Never heard about, never experienced it. Might be caused by some extra mods you've put in your game. Looks like some incompatibility between mods IMO.

4) Classic bug again. And random as well. Sometimes you'll have it, sometimes not. No fix AFAIK.

5) German soundpack by Spax here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131792&highlight=speechpack

6) Many ways. What kind of effects are you referring to? Weather and water effects? Ship destruction? Sound effects?
Anyway, carefully check the SH4 mods section here on subsim and you'll find talented people working on the graphical enhancements for the game.

[Rockin Robbins]

5) German soundpack by Spax here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=131792&highlight=speechpack

6) Many ways. What kind of effects are you referring to? Weather and water effects? Ship destruction? Sound effects?
Anyway, carefully check the SH4 mods section here on subsim and you'll find talented people working on the graphical enhancements for the game.
There is also an official Ubi Patch which must be applied before any mods are installed. Unlike the Spax soundpack, the Ubi patch will give you the appropriate language no matter if you are in a U-Boat or Fleet Boat.

[Syxx_Killer]

There is also an official Ubi Patch which must be applied before any mods are installed. Unlike the Spax soundpack, the Ubi patch will give you the appropriate language no matter if you are in a U-Boat or Fleet Boat.
Where might I find that? That has been my biggest gripe with the add-on. If I could have English and German simultaneously it would be great! However, does the patch overwrite the English SH4 sounds like the alarms, battle stations and stuff?

[Seeadler]

2) Bug caused by volumetric fog.
Not only, it's a wrong implementation of the CloudShadows effect through the environment shader. You must switch off the environment filter for no transparent deck crew but without the environment filter, the volumetric fog filter does not work in the way it was meant.:nope:

[Elder-Pirate]

There is also an official Ubi Patch which must be applied before any mods are installed. Unlike the Spax soundpack, the Ubi patch will give you the appropriate language no matter if you are in a U-Boat or Fleet Boat.
Where might I find that? That has been my biggest gripe with the add-on. If I could have English and German simultaneously it would be great! However, does the patch overwrite the English SH4 sounds like the alarms, battle stations and stuff?

OK Rockin Robbins cough up, where is this patch?:arrgh!: It's a must I tell ya, it's a must.:lol:

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I tried that patch y'all are talking about, and it said "Wrong game version" when I tried to install :cry:

[dcb]

I tried that patch y'all are talking about, and it said "Wrong game version" when I tried to install :cry:

Same here. The patch never worked for me, which leaves us with the reliable alternative made by Spax. I don't know what version of the game the patch was made for. Maybe there's some people here that got it functional and they will shed some light about it.

[submarine1981]

I am very curious how many mb must be the next patch of SH4...:hmm:
I just bought the UBM and i feel very disapponted.(fortunatelly has got only 15 Euro).
I am using a vista x64. and now I am thinking very seriously to intall a second operationg system (xp 32bit) just only for SH3. I want also to play GW2.0 I have never play sh3 with the mod GW, and as far as I undrestood from this forum, it must be very good.
what do you think? should I install xp 32bit for GW2.0? I think that i will not regret it

[stabiz]

It seems alot of people with vista are having problems, I would try SH4 on XP, submarine1981. (And SH3 + GWX of course)

PS: Yes, angry-vista-mob-ready-to-attack, I know lots of people are playing SH4 on Vista without issues. :lol:

[W4lt3r]

Yesterday, before my SH decided to take a bungee jump without the rope, i found out rather strange bug.. or could i even call it a glitch.

It's related to the specialised crew members (engineers, radar etc), On my 5th patrol in my Graf spee, i noticed there was a engine specialist for me to be recruited, of course i take him aboard instantly (sascha.H.something) was the name i guess, i send out to the sea right away after i notice that i forgot to promote my crew members.

I reload the autosave, and guess what. Sascha is at the recuirtable crew list AND aboard my ship. And i still have same amount of renown BEFORE i recruited him.. I ended up confirming this 3 times by restarting the game and doing the same. Now i got a graf spee crew with 10 clone engine specialists :doh:

[LukeFF]

It's related to the specialised crew members (engineers, radar etc), On my 5th patrol in my Graf spee, i noticed there was a engine specialist for me to be recruited, of course i take him aboard instantly (sascha.H.something) was the name i guess, i send out to the sea right away after i notice that i forgot to promote my crew members.

I reload the autosave, and guess what. Sascha is at the recuirtable crew list AND aboard my ship. And i still have same amount of renown BEFORE i recruited him.. I ended up confirming this 3 times by restarting the game and doing the same. Now i got a graf spee crew with 10 clone engine specialists :doh:

I hardly think the devs are interested in bugs that relate to mods, especially when it involves a playable surface ship. This type of bug report belongs in the mods forum, not here.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Just a quite note in here, I appreciate how civilised you guys have kept this bugs thread. Keep it up :D

[W4lt3r]

Tested it now with standard u-boat campaing, unmodded. I still encountered same glitch, this time when i started from Penang in the type IXB and took onboard the Gunnery officer. Left out the harbor and reloaded the autosave. Again there was the gunnery officer in the recruit list, renown was 7500 as it was before i left (didnt take any modifications on the sub)

So there is a glitch wich determines what crew is avaiable at what date. And autosaves can somehow bring over the same crew ID that you have onboard.

I was still able to finish my patrol with 4 gunnery officers onboard.. ehheh.

Or then there is something wrong with my own game... Dont know.