Why are the russian subs called "Projects"

[Siinji30]

Why are the Russia subs called "Projects" in the USNI database and in my narrowband ID? Why not call them Akulas or Typhoons or Oscar etc?

[ASWnut101]

I don't know. Mabye Kaptain has an answer for that, he seems to be very knowledgeable about Russian Subs...

[SergeyU]

Why are the Russia subs called "Projects" in the USNI database and in my narrowband ID? Why not call them Akulas or Typhoons or Oscar etc?

In Russia Russian submarines call numbers of projects which they have received in design office. At this number the boat passes all stages of development and construction. Names Akula, Schuka-B, Vepr ' and others became in the beginning 90. In Soviet Union all boats carried numbers of projects. And only the selected boats received own names - Komsomolec and etc.

Sorry for my english :-)
Sergey form Russia

[Kapitan]

As sergey said when they design the boat is a progect on only now do they use names for the submarines, to have a submarine with a name in the soviet fleet was a true honour.

Today you will have the pennant number and a name so Gepard is K335 and tula is K114.

Go all the way through its :project 949A / antey / K141 /Kursk / Oscar II class (nato code name)

its complicated especialy when you get boats in the same class with diffrent project numbers like Project 705 705A and 705K (NATO named alfa)

[fatty]

its complicated especialy when you get boats in the same class with diffrent project numbers like Project 705 705A and 705K (NATO named alfa)

And even worse when the NATO reporting names are the actual names of other classes, e.g. Akula->Shchuka yet Typhoon->Akula.

[SergeyU]

its complicated especialy when you get boats in the same class with diffrent project numbers like Project 705 705A and 705K (NATO named alfa)

And even worse when the NATO reporting names are the actual names of other classes, e.g. Akula->Shchuka yet Typhoon->Akula.

Russian fleet takes the name of boats by classification of NATO. It to concern not only to the name of submarines, but another arms.

[btaft]

Russian fleet takes the name of boats by classification of NATO. It to concern not only to the name of submarines, but another arms.

This very interesting. You are saying that Russian military essentially adopted the name given by the NATO designation.

I guess it is a good thing that the NATO members who picked the names didn't have a sense of humor.

I can just picture two Russian Admirals looking at their new submarine. One Admiral says to the other "Well, what are we going to call her". The other Admiral says "I don't know, the capitalist pigs can't make up their mind. They can't decide if it is going to be Elmo or Barney the Purple Dinosaur" :D

Seriously though....I find that very interesting....I am glad a learned something new today already

[Kapitan]

Yes they did as it goes they called the akula (941) typhun in russian where we call it typhoon it makes thier lives easier as well as ours :D (unsure on russian spelling there)

[ASWnut101]

I guess it is a good thing that the NATO members who picked the names didn't have a sense of humor.


Not always. A few examples:

Mig-15 "Fagot"- You'll probably understand this already. When properly-improperly pronounced, it says "Faggot," an already close realative to "Fagot."

An-12 "Cock"- I honestly hope they meant the type of bird in this one... (I think it's the An-12, but if I'm wrong, will someone correct me?)

Tu-22M "Backfire"- This one is almost ironic. It turned out to be the complete opposite of it's given name.


Just a small history lesson...:)

[TLAM Strike]

Of course the Russian Pilots of the Tu-95s loved the NATO assigned name of 'Bear'. :yep:

Also the MiG-29 'Fulcrum' and Su-27 'Flanker' are liked by their pilots IIRC. :cool:

[Frying Tiger]

I doubt the Tu-154 "Careless" and the MiG-23-01 "Faithless" pilots were quite so happy... (grin)

[Lovemaker]

Yes, NATO codes are largely used, especially ones like Typhoon, Victor, Flanker etc. And some people really pretend to "understand" the "hidden meaning" )) Though, I don't think the NATO coders really meant something important, when called MiG-21 a Fishbed or Pr.705 an Alpha. There's just a system - considering aircraft, first letter is a class designator, and the quantity of syllables is a jet/non-jet designator... Considering subs, things are much easier - just the phonetic alphabet letters. Btw, when all those letter were used, NATO introduced new names taken from Russian - such as Akula, Borey etc.
Some times, this causes misunderstanding - f.e. in NATO, Akula is pr.971, in Russian codenames, Akula is pr.941 - NATO's Typhoon...
In Russian codenames, there's much less system, well, for secrecy )) For the same secrecy (I guess) all the ship types (not only subs) are called "projects". Just take it as a word for "Type" - like in Chineese.